UK EU Referendum Aftermath
- Thread starter Woebot
- Start date
-
- Tags
- atoning for colonialism bandito bangs fists on table blunderbuss brexit means ....? brexit means breakfast brother vim bummed to death chickpeas continental craner watch daddy what is france? disgraced yoga instructor don't panic feeding my dog yoghurt full english guru dominic houmus hummus inventing reasons to hate people keep your hair on luka's national pride musket no muslims in wetherspoons oddly enough nuthouse penis sex political suicide cults project fear ii - acute anxiety really fucking shit up riot season silverware and plate clattering smashed him at backgammon stockpiling sushi the crane devours his prey the feelings of racist idiots the wrong kind of labour voters tribbles turkish breakfast walk among the swine wazza where are my chickpeas now? white men screaming racist at each other who dare speak of other things? yorkshire puds loaded into a gun
Corpsey
bandz ahoy
It is interesting, cos the right has colluded with the (mainly) tabloid press in particular to foment this anti-immigration feeling in people, but it's potentially backfired on them in terms of their economic interests. May, like Cameron, was opposed to the Brexit, presumably on the grounds of it being anti-globalisation/free trade, and the British population gave them the message (on the whole) that 'we don't want globalisation/free trade/immigration'.
There's something similar going on in the US with the Fox news network whipping up all this anti-immigration stuff and giving birth to Trump, who has steamrollered all over the Republican establishment.
There's something similar going on in the US with the Fox news network whipping up all this anti-immigration stuff and giving birth to Trump, who has steamrollered all over the Republican establishment.
Mr. Tea
Let's Talk About Ceps
I think it suited the Tories for decades (and Labour latterly as well, though to a lesser extent) to be within the EU but highly critical of it. That way, trade was facilitated, labour flowed where it was needed and big landowners got their subsidies, so it's all good, and at the same time they had the perfect scapegoat, since anything the public didn't like could be blamed on immigration, dastardly Brussels bureaucrats with their occult obsession with banana curvature and the ECHR upholding the rights of convicted child molestors to receive shiatsu massages.
That's why the official Remain campaign was so lacklustre. They couldn't, for example, counter the Leavers' whoppers about the NHS being in the shit because of the "£350m" apparently being sent to Brussels every week, because then people - or at least, the slow-of-thinking people who hadn't figured it out already - might have asked exactly why the NHS was struggling so badly, if our EU membership wasn't to blame.
vimothy
yurp
Luka, I'm not sure I follow you. The growth of populist, anti-globalist sentiment across Europe and the States -- which has given us Brexit, the Trump nomination, far right parties in power across Eastern Europe and increasingly popular even in France and Germany -- can hardly have escaped your notice. It has certainly been noticed by politicians and the media. For example, from the Guardian article I just linked to: "the IMF is terrified because it sees the UK referendum as symptomatic of something deeply dysfunctional about the global economy it has helped to shape in the past four decades". When even the IMF agrees that something must be done about the dysfunctional process of globalisation, you can rest assured that it's become conventional wisdom.
luka
Well-known member
i thought i was being quite clear. i wanted to examine the phenomenen which as i say, is not limited to the right. i asked what time frame you had in mind. after all resistance to globalisation is old news whats new is the politicians willingness to make a rappraochment with that movement (arguably forced on them by the growth of parties like ukip etc)
i asked about the relationship between the refuseniks on left and right. asked some other stuff.
just some simple questions, didnt deny it was happening. im not blind.
i asked about the relationship between the refuseniks on left and right. asked some other stuff.
just some simple questions, didnt deny it was happening. im not blind.
Mr. Tea
Let's Talk About Ceps
The weird convergence of Left and Right on some issues (important not to overstate the case) can't be overlooked, I think. Corbyn's lifelong opposition to the EEC/EU and rather late and lukewarm inclusion in the Remain campaign; Seumas Milne's and John Pilger's Kremlin toadying and the hard Left's general hard-on for Russia while Trump, Farage and Le Pen openly admire Putin; and, hot off the press, this millennial former SWJ/Twitter sleb do-gooder who in a few short months has flitted from Bernie Sanders to the Green Party to supporting Trump - because, you know, anyone but Hilary, because she represents TEH EVIL ESTABLISHMUNT!!! - and now draws a paycheque from the Russian state media to boot. Um.
Last edited: