Songs of Joy

[padraig (u.s.)]

i think becasue youre that older generation

you know I'm your age or possibly younger, right? I'm 34. pretty sure I hold none of the opinions about hipness, taste, etc you're ascribing to me.

you've mentioned this before but I though it was an inscrutable luka in-joke so I never cleared it up.

also tbc I was only conflating them in the sense of shorthand for mid-80s club-derived, post-disco pop music, mostly in their production but also their cultural positioning as chanteuses. Madonna was (loosely) a pop take on the Mudd Club/Funhouse/left field side + Whitney on the electronic black soul side, just meant they both branch from that generation of true disco + post-disco divas - Guthrie, Jocelyn Brown, etc and their production branches off post-disco too, i.e. you can hear some of their origins in Gwen Guthrie.

 

[padraig (u.s.)]

also I've never collected records ever. I've pretty much always thought serious record collecting - besides pre-digital DJ functionality - was dumb + pointless. I think all non-functional art collection is dumb, either hoarding or art speculation. just go buy some real estate or whatever. originally formed that opinion as a kid watching punk collector bros pay stupid $$$ for old Japanese/Italian/whatever hardcore 7"s. not that it matters, but just tbc.

anyway, back to joyous music.

 

[luka]

you know I'm your age or possibly younger, right? I'm 34. pretty sure I hold none of the opinions about hipness, taste, etc you're ascribing to me.

you've mentioned this before but I though it was an inscrutable luka in-joke so I never cleared it up.

also tbc I was only conflating them in the sense of shorthand for mid-80s club-derived, post-disco pop music, mostly in their production but also their cultural positioning as chanteuses. Madonna was (loosely) a pop take on the Mudd Club/Funhouse/left field side + Whitney on the electronic black soul side, just meant they both branch from that generation of true disco + post-disco divas - Guthrie, Jocelyn Brown, etc and their production branches off post-disco too, i.e. you can hear some of their origins in Gwen Guthrie.

wtf 34?!!!! i assumed you were late 40s.im older than you! time to pull rank here i think.

 

[craner]

Dissensus is now full of Young Turks pushing 40, or actually 40.

 

[craner]

On the Waltzers, joy!

 

[luka]

ah right yeah good choice. whats that other one that i like even more called craner?

 

[craner]

On the Waltzers, joy!

 

[craner]

On the Waltzers, joy!

 

[craner]

This is very much a UK kids at the fair early 90s version of joy, which I experienced.

 

[luka]

This is very much a UK kids at the fair early 90s version of joy, which I experienced.

joy markers
luke-tripping balls
barty-gurning orgasm
padraig-disco record with walter gibbons remix
craner-funfair aged 7

 

[craner]

True, but I was probably 13

 

[craner]

Also the original Mariah 'Fantasy' minus ODB is pure joy:

 

[luka]

im listening to let me be your fantasy at the moment by a very minor coincidence.
not giving me joy admittedly. i'll give sweet harmony a go.
that always sent serious fucking shivers up my spine when i was kid.

 

[craner]

Like you said, Whitney is joy:

 

[craner]

Let's not mess around, I'm with you on this. But you know that. Others do straight edge hardcore punk, we do this.

 

[luka]

Let's not mess around, I'm with you on this. But you know that. Others do straight edge hardcore punk, we do this.

i appreciate the solidarity comrade.

 

[craner]

Totally got the wrong mix for this. It was the single version that got hammered on the Waltzers. Everyone loved it, apart from the wankers listening to Ride.

 

[luka]

ive thought of a really good one

 

[luka]

its too much!

 

[craner]

I've thought of a really good one.