Homophobia and Phallic Culture in Hip Hop

[CorpseysEvilTwin]

the ramones are without doubt one of the worst bands ever to have existed.

 

[malelesbian]

not punks. punk rock music is very simple, it's entirely based on 12 bar power cord rock and roll. But post-punk was the reintegration of all that stuff which mcclaren and his idiot friends
discarded as progressive and noodly.

Not really dude, the Stooges, the Voidoids and the Clash were both proficient musicians and songwriters.

 

[CorpseysEvilTwin]

Not really dude, the Stooges, the Voidoids and the Clash were both proficient musicians and songwriters.

The Stooges predated punk.

Voiboids and clash were awful.

 

[malelesbian]

The Stooges predated punk.

Voiboids and clash were awful.

Robert Quine was one of the best guitarists and Paul Simonon was one of the best bassists. Mike Watt is a brilliant bassist.

 

[CorpseysEvilTwin]

Robert Quine was one of the best guitarists and Paul Simonon was one of the best bassists. Mike Watt is a brilliant bassist.

can't compare to John McLaughlin, Dave Holland and Reggie Workman. they just can't. not even in the same league.

 

[malelesbian]

can't compare to John McLaughlin, Dave Holland and Reggie Workman. they just can't. not even in the same league.

But Keith Levene and Jah Wobble do?

 

[CorpseysEvilTwin]

But Keith Levene and Jah Wobble do?

Levene can be compared to John McLaughlin, yes. Jah Wobble could be compared to Leroy Sibbles, Glenn Brown etc. But Sibbles and Brown were much tighter. Wobble has good technique but his rhythm is too loose. He can make good reggae rock and whiteboy reggae/dub but he'd need to get tighter in Jamaica, otherwise he'd dangle quite a bit.

 

[malelesbian]

Levene can be compared to John McLaughlin, yes. Jah Wobble could be compared to Leroy Sibbles, Glenn Brown etc. But Sibbles and Brown were much tighter. Wobble has good technique but his rhythm is too lose. He can make good reggae rock and whiteboy reggae/dub but he'd need to get tighter in Jamaica

I just find this opinion silly. Plus Mike Watt is way better than Jah Wobble. And Bob Quine is clearly better than Levene

 

[CorpseysEvilTwin]

I just find this opinion silly. Plus Mike Watt is way better than Jah Wobble. And Bob Quine is clearly better than Levene

you only find this opinion silly because you have relatively scant knowledge of jazz, and your knowledge of reggae extends to Mad Lion, if that.

 

[malelesbian]

you only find this opinion silly because you have relatively scant knowledge of jazz, and your knowledge of reggae extends to Mad Lion, if that.

And you have scant knowledge of punk and post punk.

 

[CorpseysEvilTwin]

And you have scant knowledge of punk and post punk.

that might be so, but I know which musicians people like Levene and wobble are influenced by. So I can make the comparison. But you can only think in genre-ed (gendered?) terms.

 

[malelesbian]

that might be so, but I know which musicians people like Levene and wobble are influenced by. So I can make the comparison. But you can only think in genre-ed (gendered?) terms.

I don't understand why you think I can only think in terms of genre. If anything, the music I like best has no genre, like Captain Beefheart.
Plus you said you like noise music, and most noise rock is also punk or inspired by punk. What did you think no wave was?

 

[CorpseysEvilTwin]

I don't understand why you think I can only think in terms of genre. If anything, the music I like best has no genre, like Captain Beefheart.
Plus you said you like noise music, and most noise rock is also punk or inspired by punk. What did you think no wave was?

as much inspired by avant-classical. see Glenn Branca.

 

[malelesbian]

as much inspired by avant-classical. see Glenn Branca.

Of course dude. I love Branca. But it's still punk music.

 

[ghost]

What about the Heart of the City beat? That's a classic, probably old school enough for MaleLesbian

 

[ghost]

Exhibit A is a great beat, everything sounds profound over Exhibit A.

or maybe some J Dilla. That's three beats, you only need to choose one.

 

[malelesbian]

Three freestyles recorded from my phone, just for you all!



I'll post freestyles for the 3 beats Beiser recommended later. I might even do a written verse on my own beat. Expect the audio quality to be even worse.

 

[malelesbian]

Here's my freestyle for Heart of the City. As promised, the audio quality is even worse. All you need to hear is the drums to know I stay on beat and on time. The first verse is written but the second verse is an improvised freestyle. If you guys want me to improvise both verses, I'll redo the song. This one is dedicated to @Mr. Tea

 

[malelesbian]

Here's my verses for Exhibit A. Again, the first verse is written, and the second one improvised. The second verse begins when I say the word "freestyle"
Dedicated to @WashYourHands, just because!

 

[WashYourHands]

Here's my verses for Exhibit A. Again, the first verse is written, and the second one improvised. The second verse begins when I say the word "freestyle"
Dedicated to @WashYourHands, just because!