How full of rage are you?

other_life

other_life

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also not comfortable equivocating the panthers and the mojahideen as
a) there is no equivalent with post-panthers developments for the taliban
b) the social conservative agenda of the islamists vis a vis red/socialist elements native to the country is not separable from their opposition to the soviets as occupying force
 
Clinamenic

Clinamenic

Binary & Tweed
other_life said:
my take is that tea is fine. my first impression of him was "anticommunist in a boring and frustrating way" but hes a mycologist. thats endearing as a hobby, its a skill that for me has some mystique around it. his persistence on the board in spite of being a whipping boy is endearing
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Mr. Tea

Mr. Tea

Let's Talk About Ceps
other_life said:
i mean the main thing that gives the lie to the panthers being a soviet front is how vocal they were in supporting red china
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Yeah, the Chinese-Soviet love-in soured over the course of the 60s, didn't it - in fact I was reading up on the Mujahideen just now and China was apparently one of the countries that supported them, along with the USA.
 
mixed_biscuits

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One can imagine a counterpart of @other_life saying that they're a 'Nazi' but not in that way but in this nice way. One wonders if they're supposedly nice why they insist on using a term that is freighted with such negative connotations for so many if not to overwrite those connotations.

When you have a branding problem like this: you use a different name.
 
other_life

other_life

bioconfused
Mr. Tea said:
Yeah, the Chinese-Soviet love-in soured over the course of the 60s, didn't it - in fact I was reading up on the Mujahideen just now and China was apparently one of the countries that supported them, along with the USA.
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yep! the chinese also supported similar socially conservative nationalist forces in africa in this period, and the khmer rouge
 
mixed_biscuits

mixed_biscuits

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other_life said:
not a good equivocation in light of nazi anticommunism and the shoah, either!
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Equivocation means something else. What is equivalent is that that would sound to you like what you say sounds to most people. So you can understand how it makes people feel.
 
mixed_biscuits

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@other_life given what 'Communism' denotes to most people why do you insist on using the term for a position you claim to be different.

I know you consider yourself to be an automaton but, assuming that may also be a pose, perhaps you might consider the ethics of the above.
 
other_life

other_life

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i confess that i simply do not know a better term agreed on for my (basically religiously motivated) desire that mankind - in the fullness of time and using everything we have to hand here and now - consciously preserve itself according to a socially agreed upon plan without the mediation of states or markets. in short that the common welfare is common responsibility
 
other_life

other_life

bioconfused
why should i have to believe in free will if 'determination in any case' subsumes self determination? i'm determining myself in some cases, aren't i?
 
other_life

other_life

bioconfused
other_life said:
i confess that i simply do not know a better term agreed on for my (basically religiously motivated) desire that mankind - in the fullness of time and using everything we have to hand here and now - consciously preserve itself according to a socially agreed upon plan without the mediation of states or markets. in short that the common welfare is common responsibility
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the addendum/caveat is that the annals of the historical workers movement or the party programme as we have it according to the tradition of the left are of importance here, the latter even indispensable, but secondary from the view of this order of human life as an eventuality
 
mixed_biscuits

mixed_biscuits

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other_life said:
i confess that i simply do not know a better term agreed on for my (basically religiously motivated) desire that mankind - in the fullness of time and using everything we have to hand here and now - consciously preserve itself according to a socially agreed upon plan without the mediation of states or markets. in short that the common welfare is common responsibility
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I'm sure you can come up with a name for that without piggy-backing on something with as bad a rep as Nazism (perhaps not in the US but the internet is global).
 
other_life

other_life

bioconfused
that, or extinction; evaporation into a deindividuating heavens of nihilating love and light (of which nothing can be said)
 
mixed_biscuits

mixed_biscuits

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other_life said:
the addendum here is that the annals of the historical workers movement or the party programme as we have it according to the tradition of the left are of importance here, the latter even indispensable, but secondary from the view of this order of human life as an eventuality
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So you are basically happy to keep using the equivalent of Nazi to describe yourself and risk effacing the crimes of humanity associated with Communism as well as being profoundly offensive to 100s of millions of people.
 
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