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infinite thought said:Might I just humbly suggest that whatever it is that Confucius is doing with his words, it probably isn't 'Marxist analysis'?
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infinite thought said:Might I just humbly suggest that whatever it is that Confucius is doing with his words, it probably isn't 'Marxist analysis'?
simon silverdollar said:how can it be true that the working class are 'generally' ignorant of good music?
bassnation said:i'm not buying into any of that business. when i first heard people talking about popism i used to wonder what the catholic church had to do with anything - thats how little i know about rock crit theory.
however, there is an implicit assumption on many music forums that they alone are keepers of the secret flame and the general public are somehow less for not being in on it. maybe i'm just an old fart, but i prefer to find things in common now, with all kinds of people of all ages. music is no longer an identity and is there to be enjoyed rather than worn.
i don't accept that people are as ignorant as they are made out to be. like stelfox says, the art and music is out there. if people don't reach for it doesn't mean they don't know about it. maybe its just not touching them in the way that it touches us. i don't want to look down my nose at anyone.
simon silverdollar said:how can it be true that the working class are 'generally' ignorant of good music?
(just some) music that had chiefly working class origins: jungle, grime, 2-step, hardcore, hip hop, girls aloud, the sugababes and electro.
compared to the middle class wankery of britpop, grunge, libertines and IDM, who, speaking in generalizations, would you say is more ignorant of good music?
baboon2004 said:Um, surely you've moved from discussing the musical public to musical artists now....and the link between these two groups is another argument entirely.
big satan said:i'd like to see the book where marx categorises music fans.
confucius said:for the 348th time: I'm talking about people who work minimum wage jobs 60+ hours a week, who don't have time to explore music. in order to demonstrate the effects of economics on "taste".
stelfox said:been pretty well summarily proved a bullshit point. anyway, you're boring me now.
Slothrop said:[1] I try to avoid using the tripartite class distinction on the grounds that society today is a rather more complex, dynamic and heterogeneous beast than it was 150 years ago, but You Know What I Mean.