Who isn't on myspace?
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corneilius
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Or you get fools like me, who say it like we really see and feel it, (right or wrong), leaving ourselves open to comment that does attenuate our perception (which is vital) and hope that we can make a few decent connections ...... or like The Loft, in Oxford, which now has a roster of 500+ independent musicians who perform there (the hold gigs 7/7 at present) the vast majority who came to the venue via the net, removing the Agents and Bookers who have a pretty strong grip on the live music scene in the UK ..... or like those who send out lots of usefull/interesting info to people who might not have picked it up ... the web is about making connections, and sharing info, (at least thats the up side) and only time will tell just how effective those connections will be in helping people in the Affluent West realise that we (the affluent, and those who provide us with resources, the 'poor') are one big family, though not a happy one at this time.
True, Myspace is owned by Murdoch, and true he will probably commecialise it as soon as he has his projected numbers online, and yes it is another way of the authorities listening, deissembling etc., but really they should know what we the peacefull dissenters are saying, as we will have to say it to them to their faces and actually put it to them at some stage so we might as well get used to the idea and strengthen our position in preparation (on the net and elsewhere!) and although the rush to join in is apace with the rush to control the net, yet some connections, once made, will prove to be resliient and useful..... one has to wait and see.
Or you get fools like me, who say it like we really see and feel it, (right or wrong), leaving ourselves open to comment that does attenuate our perception (which is vital) and hope that we can make a few decent connections ...... or like The Loft, in Oxford, which now has a roster of 500+ independent musicians who perform there (the hold gigs 7/7 at present) the vast majority who came to the venue via the net, removing the Agents and Bookers who have a pretty strong grip on the live music scene in the UK ..... or like those who send out lots of usefull/interesting info to people who might not have picked it up ... the web is about making connections, and sharing info, (at least thats the up side) and only time will tell just how effective those connections will be in helping people in the Affluent West realise that we (the affluent, and those who provide us with resources, the 'poor') are one big family, though not a happy one at this time.
True, Myspace is owned by Murdoch, and true he will probably commecialise it as soon as he has his projected numbers online, and yes it is another way of the authorities listening, deissembling etc., but really they should know what we the peacefull dissenters are saying, as we will have to say it to them to their faces and actually put it to them at some stage so we might as well get used to the idea and strengthen our position in preparation (on the net and elsewhere!) and although the rush to join in is apace with the rush to control the net, yet some connections, once made, will prove to be resliient and useful..... one has to wait and see.
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droid
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Not only do I get to make the same joke twice ( http://www.dissensus.com/showthread.php?t=2926&page=2 )- but I also get to repost this:
http://www.mydeathspace.com/deaths.aspx
The most morbidly fascinating thing Ive seen in ages. Ive spent far too long reading this stuff...
oh - and this:
MySpace the Movie
Are any of you familiar with BeBo?
Its the same as MySpace, except with a European twist, and added pointlessness...
http://www.mydeathspace.com/deaths.aspx
The most morbidly fascinating thing Ive seen in ages. Ive spent far too long reading this stuff...
oh - and this:
MySpace the Movie
Are any of you familiar with BeBo?
Its the same as MySpace, except with a European twist, and added pointlessness...
surely there's no point in an "alternative" myspace esque network since you wouldn't have to own the network to datamine it?
that deathspace site is fairly eerie...
and yeah,i don't know anyone with a myspace page,but almost everyone i've ever known seems to have a bebo page-i'd never even heard of it three months ago,but now it seems to be taking over the world...
is it just a european thing?
that deathspace site is fairly eerie...
and yeah,i don't know anyone with a myspace page,but almost everyone i've ever known seems to have a bebo page-i'd never even heard of it three months ago,but now it seems to be taking over the world...
is it just a european thing?
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droid
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Nah - think its more of a 'Student thing', though it does seem to have caught on more in Europe.
never heard of bebo, but as a musician I do dig myspace.
I like it because it offers a way to make oneself accessible and it has something of the accidental meeting potential that you have in real life. It's possible to just trawl through and stumble across people, something which the internet has been the opposite of good at up until now.
And I also find it unpleasant that it's a murdoch datamine, however at least we know that, while the many other datamines that are using our credit card purchase info, cookie data, etc etc are basically invisible.
I like it because it offers a way to make oneself accessible and it has something of the accidental meeting potential that you have in real life. It's possible to just trawl through and stumble across people, something which the internet has been the opposite of good at up until now.
And I also find it unpleasant that it's a murdoch datamine, however at least we know that, while the many other datamines that are using our credit card purchase info, cookie data, etc etc are basically invisible.
I'm glad to see the mydeathspace thing mentioned... the most compelling thing 've found in relation to myspace certainly---- my Brother made the interesting point that after a few pages you can predict the cause of death just by looking at the picture, a strange focus on death though esoteric sex-act is present as well, especially for the the dead young women...
Is it me or is Myspace a really ugly mishmash that does its best to crash as much as possible? Its useful for musicians, certainly (anyone up for more Burial can hear 1 1/2 new tracks streaming from his myspace site). But it just seems like another culture really, backslapping teens converging around a love of My Chemical Romance and potential sport-fucks. Its like an "alternative" version of networking, that dread topic beloved these days of university careers services-- you never see any criticism on myspace, do you? Where are the enemies lists-- "yer no thanks for the add you bastard..." It reminds me of the live music seen on a local level in this counntry: too many "friends", too much "respect"- not enough criticism or critical perspectives, given how utterly shite and moribund most of it truly is. Also it seems like myspace is an incredibly vapid and superficial format and interface for building networks, unlike say the blog/forum nexus which I think fosters debate and enables new ideas to be tested out, myspace seems to be likely (by its design) to create only the shallowest of connections...
Some more myspace related info... has anyone seen this....http://www.playlouder.com/feature/+stuff-75/
"But earlier this week it emerged that mySpace was about to launch a UK version. "How odd," I thought, as I live in the UK and apart from the date being written that annoying American way, the whole site has seemed just dandy to me. But it goes further, as mySpace will now be working with pop-peddlers CD:UK, and suddenly the NewsCorp ownership all starts to make sense. CD:UK and mySpace are at this moment formulating strategic alliances to further both brands. Bands who do well online, one assumes, will be given guest slots on CD:UK, and bands CD:UK are keen to promote will be all over the music section of mySpace like an emo kid’s bad haircut. And this will be it's downfall. For even if you did have a friends list of twenty-two thousand, mySpace didn't give you anything. The only way to capitalise on the site was to get out there, do some gigs and release some real records. One can assume that the CD:UK / mySpace alliance aims to become nothing more than an Artic Monkeys production line, churning out 'online sensation' after 'online sensation', each one younger and younger, each one having had their demo tape downloaded more, in shorter times than the last, and what was once a tool of the underground will become a mere cog in the industries ever more powerful hype machine"
ugh.
Is it me or is Myspace a really ugly mishmash that does its best to crash as much as possible? Its useful for musicians, certainly (anyone up for more Burial can hear 1 1/2 new tracks streaming from his myspace site). But it just seems like another culture really, backslapping teens converging around a love of My Chemical Romance and potential sport-fucks. Its like an "alternative" version of networking, that dread topic beloved these days of university careers services-- you never see any criticism on myspace, do you? Where are the enemies lists-- "yer no thanks for the add you bastard..." It reminds me of the live music seen on a local level in this counntry: too many "friends", too much "respect"- not enough criticism or critical perspectives, given how utterly shite and moribund most of it truly is. Also it seems like myspace is an incredibly vapid and superficial format and interface for building networks, unlike say the blog/forum nexus which I think fosters debate and enables new ideas to be tested out, myspace seems to be likely (by its design) to create only the shallowest of connections...
Some more myspace related info... has anyone seen this....http://www.playlouder.com/feature/+stuff-75/
"But earlier this week it emerged that mySpace was about to launch a UK version. "How odd," I thought, as I live in the UK and apart from the date being written that annoying American way, the whole site has seemed just dandy to me. But it goes further, as mySpace will now be working with pop-peddlers CD:UK, and suddenly the NewsCorp ownership all starts to make sense. CD:UK and mySpace are at this moment formulating strategic alliances to further both brands. Bands who do well online, one assumes, will be given guest slots on CD:UK, and bands CD:UK are keen to promote will be all over the music section of mySpace like an emo kid’s bad haircut. And this will be it's downfall. For even if you did have a friends list of twenty-two thousand, mySpace didn't give you anything. The only way to capitalise on the site was to get out there, do some gigs and release some real records. One can assume that the CD:UK / mySpace alliance aims to become nothing more than an Artic Monkeys production line, churning out 'online sensation' after 'online sensation', each one younger and younger, each one having had their demo tape downloaded more, in shorter times than the last, and what was once a tool of the underground will become a mere cog in the industries ever more powerful hype machine"
ugh.
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gek-opel said:
Hardly much to chose from though is there? Guns, cars or alcohol account for about 95% of them.
Im sure theres a thesis to be had there...
gek-opel said:
I know I'm gonna get a bit of hate for this since this board is so UKist but that is SUCH an English thing to say. Why is it that you Brits are such vitriolic, prolific haters and criticisers of things and one another? I've travelled a bit and so far the UK takes the trophy hands down by a LONG shot. And this is not purely an outsiders perspective, I was talking to a British friend of mine while we were in Geneva last weekend and he remarked on it as well, so it's fresh in mind.
That said I know what you mean but for those of us using myspace as a gig generating forum (and therefore a way to put food in our mouths) hating and being nasty is much less useful. Can't eat high level critical discourse.
As far as shallow connections however that all comes down to what you do once you find someone, if you just add someone to your friends and toss them on the pile never to talk to them (which many do) that's certainly shallow. But it also serves a pretty useful email service for people who's email addresses you don't have but may want to find.
It's true however that myspace itself is pretty terribly constructed, organized etc. Anyone ever tried using the search functions? It's like a joke, can't even find blatant text strings, it's easier to pop out to google.
Fair enough-- its a good format for musicians and promoters. Undeniably easy and the "everyone's on it" factor makes it pretty inescapable. But I think there is a lack of criticism especially in pop music... "everything is great!" "everyone is sooo talented." Maybe the Brits need a "hatespace" or something. I agree, we are miserable, critical, uncelebratory sods (well more so than in America, where there is to some extent a culture of enjoying and revelling in the success of others). It was more that the relentless upfullness of the myspace format mirrors a lack of critical thinking: unless someone tells you you're shite, how can you ever evolve into something better? Its in the music press as well- does the NME actually give review ratings at less than 7.5/10 anymore?
And yeah- the search function is dire, especially given the size of myspace, impossible to find anything!
And yeah- the search function is dire, especially given the size of myspace, impossible to find anything!
can someone please tell me (email me martin_clark7@hotmail.com ) about how to set the background image to your own on myspace it's doing my nut in...
ps rise of myspace/dip in interest in blogs - no coincidence surely?
ps rise of myspace/dip in interest in blogs - no coincidence surely?
bruno
est malade
the whole thing is culturally foreign to me. i feel like i'm looking into a someone else's party from across a huge distance, i don't feel a link to anything there but i can't help but look. like an old man i am transfixed by the cute young girls who have incredible friends that make music and do graffiti and i don't know what else, it's fascinating. then my browser crashes and i realise what a total waste of time it is so fuck it, not for me.
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SIZZLE said:
Yeah, such a bunch of boring miserable cunts aren't they? ahhh fuck 'em. fuck 'em ALL.
to respond to Matt's original quaestion, here's some cool 'buddies' of mine. not sure how many are really who the say they are, but who cares..
Cabaret Voltaire
LFO
Adonis
Derrick May
Mundo Muzique
A Guy Called Gerald
Joey Beltram
Mu-Ziq
Autechre
DMX Krew
Dizzy
The Plastician
Loefah
Burial
Ariel Pink