This really is a deeply, deeply flawed argument.
Ok - one step at a time. Hopefully I'll be able to dig into this.
Lets just ignore for a moment that the source is deeply unreliable (anyone who quote the 'black book of communism' should be laughed out of the room), lets also ignore the fact that the figures given are also highly innacurate.
I don't want to ignore this - I think it's important. You come to this in a later post (where you actually quote the authors to back up your argument that anyone who quotes it should be laughed out of the room). I want to post separately on that. First though, I want to address the actual goal of my post, which was to find out why HMLT criticises Israel to the exclusion of everyone else (excepting, of course, America).
I notice that while you (and other) have been equivocating plenty, you haven't addressed this.
So - with the assumption that everything above is factually true, let me ask you a question
Is this an argument you would have made against Anti-Apartheid campaigners? Against Solidarity in Poland? Against Iraqi's living under Saddam? Against any group that has resisted injustice or unlawful occupation but haven't suffered enough deaths to make it onto Mr Pipes' list?
Let me try and make this clear:
I AM NOT SAYING THAT GIVEN THAT MORE PEOPLE DIED UNDER MAO THAN ANYONE ELSE, HMLT SHOULD SHUT UP ABOUT ISRAEL.
Ok?
Im also wondering if you really expect people to pay more attention to, or campaign against conflicts that ended 50 years ago or a conflict thats happening now and threatens apocalyptic consequences if it escalates.
I can't believe you're actually having trouble grasping this ...
[Still looking for a smiley that bangs his against a wall].
And that isn't what he's fucking doing. I've heard HMLT on this subject a lot. He wants to destroy Israel. He's for the apocolyptic conflict - he wants to help it manifest.
I mean... :slanted: you can do better than this lazy garbage surely?
Patronising wanker - & you can't even be bothered to represent my argument properly.
Even after all thats happened in Iraq right in fornt of your eyes, you actually believe this dont you?
It's not rocket science FFS - all you have to do is look at South Korea, Japan, Germany, France, Bosnia - all countries that have been "occupied" by America, liberated by American arms. There's no law that says that America
has to act like an imperialist murderer.
And intentions don't matter - outcomes do. The US government,, if it is to be condemed, should be condemed not for its idealism, not for deposing one of the worst butchers of the 20th C, but for making a total mess of the resulting "peace" (of course, there are others to blame as well).
The mind boggles at the naivety and historical ignorance...
I think you're a bit of twat.