baboon2004
Darned cockwombles.
So by 'Kill battyboy' he means...um....?
Are you really claiming that "kill battyboy" is anything like the use of gay-meaning-generally-bad-or-unpleasant (as if that's ok itself), as if he really means "I don't like things that are generally distateful to me, personally - kids, insert your own personal examples here - without prejudice to gays specifically" (brap)Yes, and only because I can't assume he could mean anything other than black people by saying black people.
Are you really claiming that "kill battyboy" is anything like the use of gay-meaning-generally-bad-or-unpleasant (as if that's ok itself), as if he really means "I don't like things that are generally distateful to me, personally - kids, insert your own personal examples here - without prejudice to gays specifically" (brap)
[edit - snap, baboon24]
Are you really claiming that "kill battyboy" is anything like the use of gay-meaning-generally-bad-or-unpleasant
The difference to me is that the severity of using the term "gay" as an insult is generally considered to be very weak, and not even related to homosexuality in many cases, e.g. "this shit is gay"
I haven't, after all, been using the term nigger since I was 4 years old to describe almost everything unfavourable to me.
if the game had said that on westwoods show no one would give a shit.
but i agree he shouldnt have said that on whileys show - its a daytime programme, not a late night one.
THAT SAID, before everyone gets their knickers in a twist, it would do wonders to read up on Jamaican culture and history... getting mad about homophobia in JA is like getting mad about sexism in Muslim culture...
when is it ok for westerners/1st Word to impose their values on the rest of the world? this is an interesting question as radical Islam gets stronger and stronger in numbers in the Mid. East... i mean, their opinions on homosexuals make west indians seem tolerant...
i don't like homophobic lyrics, but i recognize they are a part of jamaican culture. as a non-jamaican, i don't think it's my position to change it...
What about racism in the deep south? Was the support for the civil rights movement by northern intellectuals actually disrespectful of southern culture?
i was being sincere when i was asking "when is it ok for westerners/1st Word to impose their values on the rest of the world?"
Since a culture that doesn't condone the persecution of people based on their sexuality is, in this respect, fundamentally a better society than one which does.
You're obviously a brilliant fellow and a valuable poster, I didn't mean to sound so harsh ...
And to answer your question, I don't think a male's fear of rape is really an operative criterion here - how often does that actually happen? Especially in comparison to women? "Alpha male" behavior is utterly risible even to many, many straight men, and rejected outright by them, so I don't see that it is some overwhelming fact of nature that we can't get around - alpha male behavior is lame, and we ought to say so as often as possible rather than excuse it or accommodate it. As for the cover of Gay Times, surely humanity is at a point in its history when people - be they gay, female, ethnically 'defined' or else - can put out their own magazines and explore their own imagery without incurring hate or threats of violence and killing?
I didn't say that you were ridiculous, only that justifying hate in the abovementioned ways is.
logan, you dont like posturing but you put out the war report?