NYTimes: Why do men lie about sex?

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mistersloane

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nomadologist said:
i always thought that was the entire point of repression on a micro level (think of victorian fetishes like corsets--bondage gear if anything ever was), to make sex more taboo.

there are all sorts of post-feminists writing about how my generation doesn't enjoy sex anymore because it's too ubiquitous and they've become too desensitized by the early availability and prevalance of internet porn
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I think it's to do with sex never being an of-the-moment experience, but to its association with past activity, so that every sexual activity becomes something viewed as gain toward a past experience, fetishism is re-living the experience, thus if we live in a recorded society each sexual experience is quantifiable in terms of gain ( read as psychic economic activity ).

But I'm really tired.
 
Mr. Tea

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zhao said:
honestly, being frank now, cross my heart hope to die -- i can not possibly be more convinced that most, or at least a LOT, of what most people would assume is self-evidently true is utter bullshit.

think i'll make a list.
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Well put it another way: saying something that sounds clever just because it's controversial or anti-intuitive doesn't exactly garuantee that it's true, does it? ;)
 
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Mr. Tea said:
Well put it another way: saying something that sounds clever just because it's controversial or anti-intuitive doesn't exactly garuantee that it's true, does it? ;)
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No, but it can help you get published on Slate.
 
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right right. fetishism also has to do with a "lost object" (your mom's non-existent penis) in early mid Freud.

Mr. Tea, if you want to experience ubiquitous visual representations of "sex" that are neither sexy nor capable of casting off the fetters of repression, watch American TV for a while. Or American porn, for that matter.
 
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nomadologist said:
right right. fetishism also has to do with a "lost object" (your mom's non-existent penis) in early mid Freud.
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Yeah, it's kinda the highest point in consumer culture, fetishism. 'I can't get it back, but I'll buy it back!' I think that's why trainer ( sneaker ) fetishism just seems so...honest.
 
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nomadologist said:
exactly. i have three pairs of nike dunks
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aah, that's where we differ, I'm a reebok man. Somewhere there's an interview with me really pissed (drunk) going on about whether jerking off onto trainers is soiling the god of nike or praying to it, I've still never worked it out.
 
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mistersloane said:
aah, that's where we differ, I'm a reebok man. Somewhere there's an interview with me really pissed (drunk) going on about whether jerking off onto trainers is soiling the god of nike or praying to it, I've still never worked it out.
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hahaha. i have a lot of respect for reebok classics. used to have orange ones a long long time ago...
 
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mistersloane said:
me, however, I prefer my fetishists in goatskin, like these prime examples from Langlitz ( click on Timberline and goatskin )

http://www.langlitz.com/shirts.shtml
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i saw this episode of cheaters once where this southern guy and a camera crew catch his girlfriend cheating. the interesting part is that she's cheating with three other women, all of whom have construction worker vests on and strap-ons, their faces painted kind of like members of kiss, with the girl tied on the bed with yellow "construction zone" tape all around the bed acting out a rape fantasy.

another psychoanalyst's dream.
 
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nomadologist said:
i saw this episode of cheaters once where this southern guy and a camera crew catch his girlfriend cheating. the interesting part is that she's cheating with three other women, all of whom have construction worker vests on and strap-ons, their faces painted kind of like members of kiss, with the girl tied on the bed with yellow "construction zone" tape all around the bed acting out a rape fantasy.
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Why don't I ever get invited to parties like that? All we fucking get in London is bad fuck clubs and suburban swingers.
 
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Mr. Tea said:
Speak for yourself, bitch, etc. etc. :)
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I was thinking, people always apologise for derailing threads, but it's not as if there's ever any conclusion to them, is there? I just thought it'd be nice to have a thread that had a round-up...
 
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I know, I hate that. What's interesting about message boards is their non-linear mode of miscommunication. If I wanted to have a telephone conversation or join a roundtable discussion, I would. But I don't. I like the strange places free association takes me. And I will never apologize for derailing a thread. (as if they're so fucking great they should be sacrosanct in the first place)
 
Mr. Tea

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nomadologist said:
What's interesting about message boards is their non-linear mode of miscommunication.
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SFYB.

I was thinking, people always apologise for derailing threads, but it's not as if there's ever any conclusion to them, is there? I just thought it'd be nice to have a thread that had a round-up...
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Ahh, I getcha. Well considering this whole thread started out as a discussion sparked by a misunderstanding of statistics in the popular press, I'm happy to let it lie.
 
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That writer didn't *completely* misunderstand statistics, whoever it was just used one bad example and didnt' specify that the second example was using mean not median average. If you read the Slate article you'll see.
 
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