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it's only taken me 25 years to begin to figure this out
Worst Mistake in History of Human Race
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it's only taken me 25 years to begin to figure this out
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well, Freud disagreed. He thought art was just the product of repressed libido, or libido that couldn't find an outlet otherwise. That's what called "sublimation"...
yes i'm familiar with that but i don't agree. i get very creative and produce better, or at least just as good, when I'm having lots of sex -- when the wolf is fed i feel like i can focus better on other things sometimes.
and if I'm less productive when i'm having lots of sex it's because girls takes up too much time
and if I'm less productive when i'm having lots of sex it's because girls takes up too much time
hundredmillionlifetimes
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Except that such - when unqualified - statements become indistinguishable from the incessant super-egoic injunction of today's reality principle, of capitalist realism, of emulating Arnold Schwarzenegger and his gym junk ...
The telos (of lack), only permitted after the regime that produces 'a healthy body and confident mind.' 'Because I'm worth it!', as Jane Fonda, Bill Clinton, etc, like to squeal.
it is not necessary that these statements are indestinguishable. what i choose to do with my life is distinguishable from what people like the Governator choose to do with theirs.
how can you fight for things you believe in, not to mention the enemy, if you are unhealthy? the physically unfit and sickly artist is such a damaging stereotype it pisses me off that people romanticise heron chic in relation to creativity.
artists need to stop falling victim to such stupid notions -- and empower themselves. physically, financially, politically, socially.
so i enjoy both excercising as well as a drink and a smoke, so what? you are implying that makes me a republican? what is your point exactly?
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good points
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he's talking more about the BwO in its capacity to become a force of resistance to capitalism...really BwOs are trying to attain to the schizophrenic's ability to resist capitalism...the whole discourse around "health" and the emphasis on it has been hijacked by capitalism, wouldn't you say?
exercise videos, protein powder, Arnold, etc.
so if capitalism co-opted "health", we should all become sickly to "become a force of resistance" to capitalism?
does that make sense to ANYONE out there?
capitalsim hijacked heroin chic too. as it did punk, hiphop, and affordable home furnishing. it hijacks everything. such is its nature. i don't feel like i need to spell out the rest of this argument.
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Absolutely.
Sure, it's just that ideas of health extend far beyond the questionable notion of the body as well-oiled hierarchical machine in the service of some other. And surely today, the mediatized obsession is not with the 'sickly artist' but with the sickly performance-enhanced athlete/consumer?
Disciplined resistence to the oppressive status quo is a sickly notion, as opposed to an extremely healthy one? Empower yourself: Get With The Programme (even as it kills you)?
As most of us do. It's the paradox here (getting 'healthy' in order to quickly abandon it, and vice versa, and then quickly reversing everything again) that serves as a symptom of the contemporary deadlock, not indulging in even more as a (ideological) 'solution' to it.
not sure if i understand this... are you saying that health is more than proscribed condition of optimum slave labor productivity? if you are, that is also what I am saying. so we agree?
and...?
why "opposed"? being healthy, overcoming all the roadblocks set up by the system such as addiction, is a part of disciplined resistance. and how is "getting with the (health) programme" going to "kill you"?
yes this pretty accurately describes what happens with me i admit. but i don't have a huge problem with it. all things in moderation and all that. (even moderation MWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
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but you didn't agree.
"heroin chic" is a now a cultural fossil from the 90s, Pete Doherty's "career" notwithstanding. it was capitalism at its finest, i agree.
but that does not mean that the inverse is anti-capitalist--that being "healthy" and "fit" can't be ways of falling in line. doesn't have to be, but health certainly doesn't get you to the BwO now does it? I mean, maybe some sort of blood-letting endurance sport could, I don't know...
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of course not. but certain mental illnesses, according to D&G, can get you "outside" the apparatus. they hated freud's emphasis on the neurotic. a perfect example of typical contemporary neurotic behavior is crash dieting, fad dieting, exercise bulimia, "powdered" nutrition, etc. our whole relationship to "embodiment" is umm problematic at best.
hundredmillionlifetimes
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I know the feeling ...
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1950s/1960s 'heroin' chic!
I'm envious ... interesting - and rare - staged photo though.
Gavin
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Pssst, they're both brunettes (check the eyebrows).
goomba
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I apologize for not using quotations! It's such a terrible thing I have done that has concluded in the presumption that I am new to discussion boards!
There must have been something that touched a nerve in my original post to cause you to criticise me in two different occasions. What happened to freedom of speech? Or does it not count in your little world?
goomba
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matt b
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goomba, i don't want you to leave, but if you post please think about what you're writing and sort out the emboldened huge font bollocks.
ta!
