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I'm not a strict consequentialist.
Since it's been a while since we had an Israel/Palestine thread...
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mixed_biscuits
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Logic fail.
Mr. Tea
Let's Talk About Ceps
Morality fail.
Not really, in Türkiye we shoot in the air when our favourite team wins at the football. this is a weakness in your pitiful English constitution.
Even a brother like Kevin Campbell, when he was at trabzonspor, his team mates pissed themselves laughing at him the first time when he was in the coach going back to the airport because a trabzon fan had a shooter and he was crouching down.
other_life
bioconfused
remember that time Gucci Mane said "My click is beefin like it's Israel and Pakistan"?
mixed_biscuits
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Looks like Turkish football has lost its subtle understanding of boundaries recently because hasn't the government been shutting down the whole game to not much avail?
no it's still going. same amount of guns, same amount of fighting, same cunts at fener inaugurating the we'll pull out of the league festival. 4 times in the last 6 years. great publicity stunt
for them.
Israel crisis deepens over ultra-Orthodox draft
Ultra-Orthodox in the government react furiously over a High Court order on military service.
www.bbc.co.uk
mixed_biscuits
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'Ethical antisemitism'
Mr. Tea
Let's Talk About Ceps
Even the Sun and the Mail are pretty furious about this Israeli air strike that's killed some British aid workers. Not that I expect it to lead to a substantive shift in direction for UK policy, but I do wonder if it signals a general change in attitudes to Israel on the right.
yyaldrin
in je ogen waait de wind
it's a never ending nightmare, every literal day there is some sort of news story that makes you sick in the stomach...
WashYourHands
Cat Malogen
knew the missile was coming but nothing prepares you for it when it happens
shakahislop
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the world central kitchen attack is really unique. I can't think of a time that that has happened before, where (international) aid workers have been attacked by a proper air force in such a deliberate way.
hard to know if you're not actually there but the level of violence reminds me of the US military after 9/11. a panic where normal restraint is suspended. it's a mood more than anything that allows these norms-breaking things to happen.
hard to know if you're not actually there but the level of violence reminds me of the US military after 9/11. a panic where normal restraint is suspended. it's a mood more than anything that allows these norms-breaking things to happen.
yyaldrin
in je ogen waait de wind
it's so bleak. you walk next to your mate and from one second to the other, he or she is gone, removed from the world, removed from life, blown into pieces. i've seen footage from ukraine that shocked me in a similar way, you see kamikaze drones, relatively small drones, that fly after soldiers and detonate when they are really close. they fly through windows and gaps real easy so there's no way to escape.
100% dystopian
yyaldrin
in je ogen waait de wind
except it's not unique, more than 196 aid workers have been killed already. how much of those were deliberate i don't know.
shakahislop
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it is a bit unique. rightly or wrongly (probably wrongly), 'international' aid workers and 'local' aid workers are treated very differently. there's loads of reasons why that's the case and it's a complicated thing to unravel, even if the morality of it is straightforward on the face of it. international aid workers are very protected
In some places international aid workers are deliberately targeted and attacked. But that is by people like al shabab, daesh, or the taliban. Not by a government. this one was extremely targeted and deliberate.
killing nearly 200 un employees is in itself a first. nothing like that has happened since 1945, not even close. In aid terms they are disregarding all norms
