zomby - where were u in 92?

Tanadan

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I must be losing touch with dubstep then, because I thought it was the worst release Hyperdub have put out.

Yeah, I agree - I was really dissapointed that the awesome (film?) sample about "nothing" from the Hyperdub myspace clip wasn't actually in the tunes. And I loved the Quarta 330 and the Ikonika and esp. the LV. and Bad of course. But the t-shirt is lovely.

Edit: but then again, going back to the first half of what you said, I couldn't care less about 'dubstep' nowadays... not that I don't like "One of Us" and "Digidesign" and Blackdown's remix of Knife and Gun, but the scene doesn't blow my mind like it did when I first encountered Neverland. Not a generic 'music-is-worse-these-days' complaint, just the inevitable result of genrefication I think.
 
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nochexxx

harco pronting
alot of his tracks do that though, all the tracks on '92 do that i think it's what he does.

i finally got round to listening to my copy of strange fruit and that cuts out too!
why though? it's not like it happens in a ariel pink conceptual-fucking-mix-tape type way :eek:
 

U-Basstard

tragic mix
i think the guy's just got a kinda sick sense of humour with a proper hardcore attitude, like he knows you're well into the tune and he can just cut your pleasure short when he feels like it. That's the impression i get, and judging from some stories i've heard about him it fits.
 

nochexxx

harco pronting
just discovered zomby's 'back to 92' mix right here


they've since added some humorous banter concerning this mix.


*UPDATE**
Due to incessant reader requests for a tracklist, and after much persuasion, Zomby, Darren and SBlair finally emerge from a bedroom full of smoke to provide you with their personal commentary for Zomby's "Where Were U in 92" mixtape – enjoy. Or as Robbie Dee puts it, 'Are you still fucking mental out there yet?'

I never heard these tracks in a rave – I didn’t reach my first rave until 1993 – these were tunes that I first heard on the tapes being passed around at the time either recorded in raves or mixed by the older kids in my school who were ahead of the game – ahead of us anyway. A few of the tracks I came to later as I dug around in second hand shops. No point even starting to list the tunes that aren’t on here…

Ridiculous that this tune isn’t played in full – but the mix is only made up of tracks that I have on vinyl and I missed this one so was grabbed from youtube as it had to be on there one way or another, BODYSNATCH – EUPHONY, AKA ‘Just 4 U London’. If ever London needs its own anthem look no further – makes me ache with pride – but you don’t hear that vocal here, or the beat, just this sound from the intro.

Over that you have Robbie Dee mc’ing at a Fantazia rave in ’92. Used to sit around smoking weed at an Olympic level, twisting our half-formed, adolescent minds listening to tapes like this. It always made you feel like you had come into the scene too late. And moments of mc’ing could become biblical.

Then straight into MANIX – SPECIAL REQUEST. First bought the record for ‘Feel Real Good’, but this track is the killer for me and I wanted to avoid the whole piano thing and keep the mix darker and tougher but still with that rave sound to connect it to the Zomby album.

Out of that into STRUCTURAL DAMAGE – REALLY LIVING which was on a Fantazia tape we used to listen to. The sounds of those stabs do something strange to me – fuck, I’m back in Duffy’s bedroom!

Again, I bought 2 BAD MICE – 2 BAD MICE (REMIX) for its more famous a-side ‘Bombscare’ but it was a toss up between this and ‘Waremouse’ for pride of place on the mix. For some reason this won.

CODE 071 – A LONDON SUMTIN is another track to get the cockney pride rising, and has to be one of my favourites on here even though I came to it late during a Reinforced crate digging session. Incredible.

Could have chosen almost any of Goldie’s early releases, but went for RUFIGE KRU – MENACE. How many ideas are there in this tune? When I first started listening to this stuff Goldie was a complete mystery, almost a myth, the guy that made ‘Terminator’ which was the tune that really opened me up to hardcore.

He features again on 4HERO – THE ELEMENTS (FIRE AND WATER REMIX), credited alongside Marc Mac and Dego. Came to this tune late too – my giddy teenage mind wasn’t ready for this shit.

Next up, time to get the rave started, DMS – VENGENCE, produced by Acen, another hardcore legend who helped really define the sound. Good times.

CRIMINAL MINDS – BAPTISED BY DUB made perfect sense to my stoned 15 year-old mind with its reggae flavoured build up and jump into frenetic e’d up mayhem. I’m getting sentimental now.

Time to take it back down with 4HERO – STUDENTS OF THE FUTURE (THE 4TH DIMENSION 4HERO REMIX), though I’m now wondering if it’s the (NOSTRADAMUS: REVELATION RUGIGE KRU REMIX), the picture disc is confusing. Either way it’s bad.

After the pirate radio clip ¬we drop into STUDIO 2 – DIRTY GAMES, the ultimate floppy bass monster. What the fuck is this music?

JOHNNY JUNGLE – FLAMMABLE is from ’93. Hardcore? Jungle? Somewhere in between I guess.

Then a clip of MC GQ – ‘look at the crowd’ from a World Dance rave I was at, and a snippet from a Kaotic Chemistry track ‘Space Cakes’ which would have been on here if I could have found the record in my collection, and then into INTA WARRIORS – YOUR LOVE IS YOURS, produced by Grooverider.

Back to Robbie Dee pushing the boundaries of the English language with his ‘Are you still fucking mental out there yet?’ question. Then into DUB II – BADMAN (TUFFNESS MIX). It doesn’t get much more hardcore than this track. Brash, incessant, relentless and contributed to a generation of English kids talking in patois.

Last up is DJ TRACE – LOST ENTITY, another from ’93, just felt like putting on a heavy Amen tune.

And that is that. Too many tunes that aren’t on here. Too many tunes I don’t have, or lost over the years.
 

franz

Well-known member
i think the homage has to be at least part red-herring--or not the full picture of what's going on here...

as i was listening to some of this DJ Elmoe stuff on Imeem, it occurred to me that there are some juke-ish elements in Pillz, for example. above and beyond just a general similarity in the unnerving and somewhat dark or melancholic childish vibe that both Elmoe (and Nate and the other young'uns) and Zomby seem to have in spades--albeit not necessarily for the same reasons. the way Zomby uses vocal samples sometimes--repetitive, off kilter and almost somnambulant--reminds me of some of the juke stuff, big time.

don't know how much i'd belabour that connection on paper, but i would say that in general, it doesn't make sense to me to just think of this album in terms of hardcore or stuff that was going on 15+ years ago.
even if it were a totally deliberate and sincere historical project... neat sparks start to fly when he's sucking back other stuff (like the daft punk sampling) through the vortex.

not my favourite zomby productions but still great for reasons that are difficult to pin down--something that i love about his work in general.
 

mms

sometimes
i think the homage has to be at least part red-herring--or not the full picture of what's going on here...

as i was listening to some of this DJ Elmoe stuff on Imeem, it occurred to me that there are some juke-ish elements in Pillz, for example. above and beyond just a general similarity in the unnerving and somewhat dark or melancholic childish vibe that both Elmoe (and Nate and the other young'uns) and Zomby seem to have in spades--albeit not necessarily for the same reasons. the way Zomby uses vocal samples sometimes--repetitive, off kilter and almost somnambulant--reminds me of some of the juke stuff, big time.

don't know how much i'd belabour that connection on paper, but i would say that in general, it doesn't make sense to me to just think of this album in terms of hardcore or stuff that was going on 15+ years ago.
even if it were a totally deliberate and sincere historical project... neat sparks start to fly when he's sucking back other stuff (like the daft punk sampling) through the vortex.

not my favourite zomby productions but still great for reasons that are difficult to pin down--something that i love about his work in general.


pillz is the track that's the exception to the general '92 vibe though.

basically you can do whatever you want i think if you want to make an album that sounds like hardcore do it.
 

mms

sometimes
Edit: but then again, going back to the first half of what you said, I couldn't care less about 'dubstep' nowadays... not that I don't like "One of Us" and "Digidesign" and Blackdown's remix of Knife and Gun, but the scene doesn't blow my mind like it did when I first encountered Neverland. Not a generic 'music-is-worse-these-days' complaint, just the inevitable result of genrefication I think.



if you can call zombys music a result of genrefication i think you've been listening to the a different zomby than i have.
 

mos dan

fact music
if you can call zombys music a result of genrefication i think you've been listening to the a different zomby than i have.

i think arguably his music is a reaction against genrefication!!

if you think that our good friend zomby/jj was doing plenty of hating on dubstepforum and on here :) - i shouldn't try and put words in his mouth, but i don't imagine him being very into the solidifying and codifying of a dubstep sound, when it was happening a couple of years back.
 

claphands

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wait so is the zomby from the bassline house thread the same as the wonky/hyperdub/where were u in 92 zomby?
 

Tanadan

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the solidifying and codifying of a dubstep sound, when it was happening a couple of years back.

Yeah, that's what I meant - I was referring to 'dubstep' generally, not Zomby. Zomby's probably wicked, I just haven't been to a record shop in a while and so have only heard mp3s of the tunes :(
 

Tanadan

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Yeah, that's what I meant - I was referring to 'dubstep' generally, not Zomby. Zomby's probably wicked, I just haven't been to a record shop in a while and so have only heard mp3s of the tunes :(

But then, that's a bit of shit statement to make - 'dubstep' can't be shit or degenre-ating (woowoo!) if Zomby is making good tunes. I'll go listen to the tunes properly and then form an opinion, rather than the other way around.
 

Tanadan

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But then, that's a bit of shit statement to make - 'dubstep' can't be shit or degenre-ating (woowoo!) if Zomby is making good tunes. I'll go listen to the tunes properly and then form an opinion, rather than the other way around.

Or maybe I won't even form an opinion, in my ever-expanding quest to judge and categorize the world, and rather I'll just let 'Diamonds and Pearls' float by really loud while I skank like a loon.
 

gumdrops

Well-known member
i like this album. i wasnt that old in 92 so all i knew about rave was d mob lol but i dont see it as a total smirking pisstake. he seems to have brought in little nods to modern influences too, bits of dubstep, bmore club etc.
 
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