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BOB is "important" because... like, it's about Iraq and stuff, yeah?

Rockism, plain and simple.
 
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crackerjack

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swears said:
BOB is "important" because... like, it's about Iraq and stuff, yeah?

Rockism, plain and simple.
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is that what they said? haven't read it, but B.O.B. is simply incredible - just the way Andre keeps time over such a fucked-up beat - and 'important' because it shows clear influence of dnb and Squarepusher, which is novel itself for such a big-name US hip hop producer (Sqp especially)
 
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baboon2004

Darned cockwombles.
but timbaland/waterfalls (even genie in a bottle) took on rhythmic ideas from jungle years before...

Squarepusher is more novel an influence, i agree. But...it just wasn't that good, i didn't think, and i really doubt without the title it would've made such waves, esp in the midst of an album with a great many other excellent tracks.
 
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mms

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it's hilarious, it reminds me of that chapman brothers piece 'hell' .
borderline psychotic.
 
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baboon2004 said:
but timbaland/waterfalls (even genie in a bottle) took on rhythmic ideas from jungle years before..
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of course, yeah, that's why I qualified it slightly. but BOB was the only one to rip it at a comparable tempo and with the same energy. much as i think Waterfalls is a fabulous record, it's not really a seismic re-write of what an R&B tune is expercted to sound like (unless you're a real beat nerd)
 
hint

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party record with a siren
The beat on BOB sounds more like Quad City DJs etc. than Squarepusher. Are they on record as saying they were inspired by Squarepusher around the time of Stankonia?

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mms

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hint said:
The beat on BOB sounds more like Quad City DJs etc. than Squarepusher. Are they on record as saying they were inspired by Squarepusher around the time of Stankonia?

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that's ace.
love the mass unifying explanation for the b.o.b. choice. They could have said ' sounds a bit like funkadelic' rather than the nasty posi-false reasoning they did give.
Anyway, fresh and clean is undoubtedly superior and my personal anthem ;)
 
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mms

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baboon2004 said:
but timbaland/waterfalls (even genie in a bottle) took on rhythmic ideas from jungle years before...

Squarepusher is more novel an influence, i agree. But...it just wasn't that good, i didn't think, and i really doubt without the title it would've made such waves, esp in the midst of an album with a great many other excellent tracks.
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they did a fucking dreadful trite piece of drum and jazz cover of 'favorite things' on the next album they did. Thats probably where the big squarepusher influence really kicked in.
 
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crackerjack

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mms said:
they did a fucking dreadful trite piece of drum and jazz cover of 'favorite things' on the next album they did.
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No, you're wrong, it's great :p

All this talk of groundbreaking R&B records has reminded me - just where is Try Again in this list? and We Need A Resolution?
 
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massrock

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crackerjack said:
the way Andre keeps time over such a fucked-up beat -
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He's rapping double time over 154 bpm. It's fast but it's not complicated, just 4/4. Yawntastic tune anyway if you ask me. But hey, lists are there for the disagreeing with, and the generating of web traffic.
 
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baboon2004

Darned cockwombles.
Can't be arsed to go through the list, but I presume Oops Oh My gets a stellar rating, as the RnB beat of the decade (possibly)
 
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baboon2004

Darned cockwombles.
I outright love five songs on the list, to be honest (and one more of them got remade to be one of my favourite 5 songs of the decade).

Yay, ceasefire over in ILX-Dissensus war!
 
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crackerjack

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john eden said:
"Your organization's Internet use policy restricts access to this web page at this time."

Actually I feel quite relieved about that. Thank you, Stalinist web-monitor.
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Obviously Mr Stalinist web-monitor knows the damage soul-crushing cynicism and sulphuric bitterness can do company morale.
 
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