Hip-Hop 2012

CrowleyHead

Well-known member
It's really good Mannie's making himself legitimate again on one hand, he more than earned that. Shame nobody's going to do the same favor for say, KLC, but hey.
 

DannyL

Wild Horses
Not to mention that you hate Roc Marciano.

At the moment with rap it seems to me that the 'trap' style is so dominant (maybe I'm off here, could just be what I happen to be listening to?), it feels like it will never end. But then you look back and every era had its dominant style which everyone copied. So what's next?

Side-note/question: I've never really bothered listening to Kanye (and Drake, to a lesser extent), but I'm wondering if it's Kanye who really opened the doors for 'cloud rap'/ASAP Rocky style production getting into the cult-mainstream of rap music? I'm assuming '808 and Heartbreaks' had a big role in this - cos everyone talks about it.

Basically I'm thinking I probably should listen to Kanye. I feel an obligation.

I need loads of gaps filling in, to. I have no right to pontificate about rap music (probably) when I haven't ever listened to a full UGK album, right?

You write really well about rap, Corpsey. IMHO but I am so old I'm near to death. Surely the pioneers of cloud rap would be Main Attractionz/Green Ova Undergroundz plus Clams and Lil B's more ambient moments (I'm God et al). I like A$AP but he does seem something of a weak imitation of this stuff style with a good looking front man.
 

baboon2004

Darned cockwombles.
Well a good proportion of the A$AP album was produced by Clams Casino, as was 'I'm God'. Think he must be responsible, along with the MA producers, for a huge proportion of the total amount of cloud rap. Further back, surely these guys listened to a lot of DJ Screw at one point?

@Corpsey: I've listened to a full UGK album, and...you're not missing too much, as good a rapper as Bun B is.
 
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outraygeous

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sounds like ny is still crushed by the weight of its history (i still dont understand how people like action bronson). i dont think london is crushed by its history w/r/t dance music, its just that those who cant think of any big new ideas are the ones with the most work/buzz.

as far as the gentrification thing - you could basically replace ny with london and most of it would probably still ring true.



someone needs to do a study (or dissensus thread at least) about this. cos its relevant in every genre. cuts across the arts in general.

probably the wrong place to post this.

 

outraygeous

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I was going to post this in Road Rap but this was higher up. This is what rap music looks like now doesnt it? Are these hipsters? I dont know, I didnt really like the track but I probably could after a few listens
 

mistersloane

heavy heavy monster sound

I was going to post this in Road Rap but this was higher up. This is what rap music looks like now doesnt it? Are these hipsters? I dont know, I didnt really like the track but I probably could after a few listens

I could be wrong but this sounds like Christian trap to me. It's as bad as I think that would be, anyway.
 

Esp

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yyaldrin

in je ogen waait de wind
I like the term Trap-EDM, it's similar as the distinction between dubstep and brostep I guess. Saw Bauer some days ago and thought it was horrible, like listening to the same track for 2 hours. It was so formulaic and it had those annoying Dutch house/fidget sounds in it. I did have a hangover tho so maybe it was just my mood.
 
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