Election incoming

What will be the result of the upcoming GE?

  • Conservative majority

    Votes: 6 30.0%

  • Conservative minority

    Votes: 4 20.0%

  • Labour majority

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Labour minority

    Votes: 6 30.0%

  • The Lib Dems are a force for evil

    Votes: 2 10.0%

  • Fuck the lot of em, we're going to to hell in a handcart

    Votes: 6 30.0%
  • Total voters
    20
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version

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Account used to spread fake news about boy on hospital floor 'was hacked'

A medical secretary has claimed her Facebook account was hacked after it was used to post false information claiming that a photograph of an ill boy on the floor at Leeds General Infirmary was staged for political purposes.

The woman denied posting the allegation that four-year-old Jack Willment-Barr’s mother placed him on the floor specifically to take the picture which became symbolic of the NHS’s troubles after it appeared on the front page of Monday’s Daily Mirror.

“I was hacked. I am not a nurse and I certainly don’t know anyone in Leeds,” said the woman, whose name the Guardian is withholding because she says she has received death threats. “I’ve had to delete everything as I have had death threats to myself and my children.”
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Claims that the photo was staged spread rapidly across social media and messaging services on Monday night, potentially reaching millions of people after being amplified by Conservative politicians, celebrities and some journalists.
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Despite the claim that the photo was staged having been acknowledged as false, it has continued to spread on both Facebook and Twitter, largely through individual low-follower accounts cutting and pasting the original text to share with their friends.

One version, posted by a man who claims to work for the British army’s intelligence corps, has received 2,000 shares on Facebook; another, from a person saying they were a former soldier, has received a further 500.

The same claim was shared on Twitter, where it was spread by much more significant accounts. The Telegraph columnist Allison Pearson retweeted screenshots of the Facebook page to her followers twice, telling them “I presume this is genuine”, and adding later that the photo was “100% faked”. Her posts have received thousands of retweets between them.
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https://www.theguardian.com/media/2...-hacked-to-post-fake-story-about-hospital-boy
 
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sadmanbarty

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a couple of weeks ago the ft reported that labour were pivoting there strategy to sure up leave-leaning areas.

then there's this:


they could have done a much better job at positioning themselves as social conservatives. they'd be the party of law and order vs tory police cuts. pro-union vs boris breaking up the union. even frame all that public spending as this grand thing of rebuilding britain.

"boris believes in boris, labour believes in britain"
 
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sadmanbarty

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the fundamental nature of the british electorate is really people wanting to pull themselves up. they want to make there own lives better. thatcher was very good at speaking to that. it's lower-middle class, middle england aspiration.

labour speak as though the country's just looking for a handout and it doesn't win them elections. this thing of hopening to weaponise the nhs and school shortages your way to power doesn't work.

new labour was essentially a project of redistributing wealth from the rich to the poor disguised as a party for middle englanders. you can have progressive policies, just don't make them the focal point of your rhetoric.
 
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sadmanbarty

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Apparently the tories has been running facebook ads about corbyn’s ira/terrorist sympathies that are getting lots of traction in working class seats.
 
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DannyL

Wild Horses
sadmanbarty said:
the fundamental nature of the british electorate is really people wanting to pull themselves up. they want to make there own lives better. thatcher was very good at speaking to that. it's lower-middle class, middle england aspiration.

labour speak as though the country's just looking for a handout and it doesn't win them elections. this thing of hopening to weaponise the nhs and school shortages your way to power doesn't work.

new labour was essentially a project of redistributing wealth from the rich to the poor disguised as a party for middle englanders. you can have progressive policies, just don't make them the focal point of your rhetoric.
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I agree with this but Labour were never going to do - they're fundamentally defined by this break with past. 2015 is ground zero. That insane canvasing thing i pposted yesterday was all about this. The only thing they hate more than the Tories is Blair.

I also feel that softly softly redistributive thing doesn't catch the energy of the zeitgeist. There's a lot of people who want some kinda big radical break. This is partly why Change UK were such a damp squib.
 
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DannyL

Wild Horses
A friend of mine wrote this about the hospital bed story:

Russia pioneered these techniques in Syria and perfected them in the 2016 US election.

Basically when you have a fairly black and white case of right and wrong then you need to flood social media with smears of the wronged victim.

Now the Tories are using it

The goal is not to convince anyone but to sow enough doubt around the incident / topic that a sense of mass outrage can't pick up steam

It works by offering those who are on the fence a way to stay on the fence

The left colluded in this when it came to Syria / HRC...they didn't want to face up to the difficult choices both situations presented...and these disinformation campaigns offered them a way not to
 
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version

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Boris Johnson just drove a JCB with "Get Brexit Done" plastered across the front through a wall of bricks with "Gridlock" printed on them.

 
Mr. Tea

Mr. Tea

Let's Talk About Ceps
version said:
Boris Johnson just drove a JCB with "Get Brexit Done" plastered across the front through a wall of bricks with "Gridlock" printed on them.

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Was he later photographed literally flogging a literal dead horse with "VISUAL METAPHOR" crudely daubed on its side?
 
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DannyL

Wild Horses
It's Frankie Boyle. I feel like giving it a standing ovation after reading it in the office.

You won’t be surprised to learn that I won’t be voting Tory on Thursday, for much the same reasons that I won’t be spending the day kicking children and pensioners into traffic.
 
sufi

sufi

lala
IdleRich said:
Well I'm out of this election cos my postal vote form hasn't turned up.
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If it shows up before Thurs you can still deliver it in person

Edit to add

Oops double post
I dropped off my faraway friend's vote as a 'proxy vote by post' this morning
 
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Mr. Tea

Mr. Tea

Let's Talk About Ceps
DannyL said:
It's Frankie Boyle. I feel like giving it a standing ovation after reading it in the office.

You won’t be surprised to learn that I won’t be voting Tory on Thursday, for much the same reasons that I won’t be spending the day kicking children and pensioners into traffic.
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Another of these things that's obviously only going to be read by people who already agree with it, but anything that cheer one up (however bleakly) is welcome in these dark times.
 
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