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constant escape said:
And the eugenics threat is one for which I would rather err on the side of caution. That said, I don't see it being a major obstacle here. Other major obstacles sure. But people of all races and of all times, from what I gather, have pointed in the key directions I'm pointing in.

I suppose any sort of racist eugenics issue may stem from the conflation of technological advancement with intrinsic evolutionary advancement - which is admittedly a conflation I need to take pains to avoid making.
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correct, you must take greater pains to avoid making it.
 
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Mr. Tea said:
Well, no, because that's not what it was, as much as you clearly enjoy making that accusation.
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lol bog off matthew has at least done some research as a layperson. you just wanted to do a ta-da! got you. It's amusing, more than anything else. like pompously walking into a room, throwing down the gauntlet and Angela Merkel being like, sure, here's the gun, please pull the trigger outside the door, we're eating at the moment. hahahaha.

If you found your own blunders amusing we'd be the best of friends. a bit less serious.
 
Mr. Tea

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WashYourHands said:
smoked actual lawn grass aged about ten. Grass is grass right? Dried it in the oven skiving off school. Loaded my Dad’s rarely used pipe and got instant asthma for about an hour. Knew something didn’t smell right.
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Please tell me you didn't try "soapbar" next...
 
pattycakes_

pattycakes_

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Was literally all we could get in the lakes in the 90s. Sometimes you'd find bits of plastic in there where they couldn't be arsed to clean the brick properly before melting it down to mix with god knows what. Clearly remember the first time I tried skunk which someone from Kendal had brought. 25quid an 1/8 it was. A lot of money to me back then, but god damn did I savour the journey to Kendal and back. Tasted delish n all.
 
Murphy

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I knew someone who saved all the bits of plastic, put them in a cup of tea, then drank the contents. Mmmm, smoky bits of filler, notes of earthiness and cellophane

 
luka

luka

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I hope that's not true. Shut In Steve and his forest gate bedsit is where I would interface with these market innovations.
 
Mr. Tea

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thirdform said:
lol bog off matthew has at least done some research as a layperson. you just wanted to do a ta-da! got you. It's amusing, more than anything else. like pompously walking into a room, throwing down the gauntlet and Angela Merkel being like, sure, here's the gun, please pull the trigger outside the door, we're eating at the moment. hahahaha.

If you found your own blunders amusing we'd be the best of friends. a bit less serious.
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I said I respected your experience. I don't one anecdotal data point settles the matter for all time. For one thing, isn't it likely that someone prone to schizophrenic episodes might have psychedelic experiences that lie closer to that state than someone who isn't?

To make an analogy that's not very precise but probably not totally wrong either, people who are already highly religious are much more likely to have religious experiences on psychedelics than non-believers.

And I appreciate too that Matthew has done a lot of research for his book. But then, so did Michael Pollan.
 
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Mr. Tea said:
I said I respected your experience. I don't one anecdotal data point settles the matter for all time. For one thing, isn't it likely that someone prone to schizophrenic episodes might have psychedelic experiences that lie closer to that state than someone who isn't?

To make an analogy that's not very precise but probably not totally wrong either, people who are already highly religious are much more likely to have religious experiences on psychedelics than non-believers.

And I appreciate too that Matthew has done a lot of research for his book. But then, so did Michael Pollan.
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Never said it did. I don't think schizophrenia and the psychedelic experience are the same though, but that's because there is an intense variation between individual psychedelic experiences and individual episodes of schizophrenia. there are so many variables to account for. In that sense set and setting is a bit of a misnomer, you have to process an enormous amount of information relative to the circumstances to have an accurate set and setting typology.
 
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thirdform said:
Never said it did. I don't think schizophrenia and the psychedelic experience are the same though, but that's because there is an intense variation between individual psychedelic experiences and individual episodes of schizophrenia. there are so many variables to account for. In that sense set and setting is a bit of a misnomer, you have to process an enormous amount of information relative to the circumstances to have an accurate set and setting typology.
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Can't disagree with that.
 
luka

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Do all the drugs, go mad, end up on the streets without friends or family or resources with no bearings, a broken toy, blown in the wind
 
Mr. Tea

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luka said:
Do all the drugs, go mad, end up on the streets without friends or family or resources with no bearings, a broken toy, blown in the wind
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I just don't understand why you're not currently practising as a therapist.
 
Mr. Tea

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WashYourHands said:
I knew someone who saved all the bits of plastic, put them in a cup of tea, then drank the contents. Mmmm, smoky bits of filler, notes of earthiness and cellophane

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The best bit about this is that cannabinoids aren't even water-soluble. 🤣
 
Mr. Tea

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Speaking of Stamets, there's a hilarious bit in Pollan's book where the two of them go on a camping trip in search of azzies, and Pollan casually refers to them as "shrooms".

To which Stamets responds, pretty much, with: "SILENCE, INFIDEL! THOU HAST PROFANED THE NAME OF THE SACRED FUNGUS, TEONANACATL! NEVER USE THAT WORD IN MY PRESENCE AGAIN!"

And Pollan is like, k, soz, I guess.
 
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