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Did this come out in therapy?
Mr. Tea
Let's Talk About Ceps
Yeah, I was going to say - there was always loads of explosions, bullets flying everywhere and whatnot, but nobody - not even the baddies - ever seemed to suffer so much as a scratch.
woops
is not like other people
it's both which is the only reason you're bothering
IdleRich
IdleRich
Also sitcoms in the US... Friends, Seinfeld whatever they all good flats in central NY despite never doing anything. More recently you've got those things like Kevin Can Wait and Last Man Standing were you get an average to bad looking every man who gets to do fuck all and live in a big house with his beautiful wife - just the normal life that every workig man has.
woops
is not like other people
you just need to look at any UK sitcom to see that most people live in squalor, long tradition of this from steptoe through young ones/bottom to the present day
Mr. Tea
Let's Talk About Ceps
God, can you imagine Americans watching Bottom?
IdleRich
IdleRich
Well I'm saying it shifted to the studios, woops is saying it shifted away from them. Maybe it's not totally contradictory if they happened at different times.
IdleRich
IdleRich
Yeah but the narrative of Raging Bulls etc is that cos of Heaven's Gate and a few other films auteurs were seen as too much of a risk and the studio curbed them despite the success (almost failures) of Godfather etc so it moved to a more kinda democratic or rule by committee type process without one artistic person who didn't care about the bottom line more than everything else, having massive power. Later on it probably moved further from the studios to their backers and investors, I dunno.
IdleRich
IdleRich
Sorry I see what you mean. I think in the 70s you got those auteurs Kubrick, Cimino whatever and sometimes they made profitable masterpieces but sometimes they fucked up and afterwards the studios decided to concentrate on guaranteed money makers and curbed the excesses of the geniuses.
Before the seventies, I dunno, you had all Charlie Chaplin and Douglas Fairbanks etc forming their own studios so there was artist power but I think it took on a different form in the 70s maybe.
woops
is not like other people
the key actor to look at if you want to watch this development is jack nicholson.
he tried directing a sequel to Chinatown himself which just shows that the era of the auteur was over - Nicholson was clearly not one and this film deserves a place in the Bottom 5 of All Time. His best one for my money is 5 Easy Pieces, that could only ever have been made in the 70s
he tried directing a sequel to Chinatown himself which just shows that the era of the auteur was over - Nicholson was clearly not one and this film deserves a place in the Bottom 5 of All Time. His best one for my money is 5 Easy Pieces, that could only ever have been made in the 70s
woops
is not like other people
and that's 'cos it's about a macho misanthrope, not a rebel without a cause or an action hero or a psycho but an (apparently) intelligent man who repeatedly rejects polite society. there must be a name for this kind of flick