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Rolling Afghanistan Thread
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same story that Craner described in his recent piece on Iraq
‘Everyone Middle East is here’: The British in Iraq
The real difficulty here is that we don’t know exactly what we intend to do in this country. Can you persuade people to take your side when you are not sure in the end whether you’ll be there to ta…
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of a perspective populated by ex-pats and parachuted-in pro-consuls and orientalist experts that ends up in conflict with the "sons of the soil", like saddam and the taliban
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my work car. but yes. it was a bulletproof car. so i was in a bulletproof boot.
it wasn't antonio's idea. it was one of the guys i worked with.
padraig (u.s.)
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Despite luka's amusing caricature of my position, you just don't get feminists and gender theorists in the middle east and South Asia who aren't from the upper middle classes or literati. It's in this way its a western (or more correctly bourgeois) imposition, not because the theories themselves are incorrect (although I'd say the majority of feminist theory has a problem with grounding the gender relation in the contradiction between use and exchange value) this too applies to many liberal theories of race, which cannot locate race at the level of respective national capitals. The point is not to have a fair debate but to conduct scientific investigations into the management of populations.
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-don’t remember what Luca said.
You do get Feminists, feminists and gender theorists in my experience in ME: actioning all the time, thinking all the time, from all classes including immigrant and diaspora, S Asia also (Dalit) - totally don’t understand what you mean. I met and lived with them. Confused.
... and what do you mean by these statements:
”I'd say the majority of feminist theory has a problem with grounding the gender relation in the contradiction between use and exchange value”
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”The point is not to have a fair debate but to conduct scientific investigations into the management of populations”- please clarify?
This depends what you mean by feminism. If you mean womens liberation or womens emancipation in the most broadest sense, and a kind of practical direct action, then sure I would agree. I took your enquiry to be more about the academic discipline of gender studies, which is highly class delineated.
Where did you live in the middle east, by chance? in rural villages or in the cities.
Because the agrarian question is the key to the appeal of reactionary ideologies like political islamism.
People in my Kurdish village don't have a grasp of English beyond the colloquial basics, let alone being able to read say, the highly obscure prose of Judith Butler. You have to work at their level. And unlike me they don't have to live in Baked Beans land.
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But hey, im not white, (not even in a cultural sense - turkmen-Kurds will never be assimilated into British Asian identity) so western fantasies of romantic nationalism and decolonising the discourse have never appealed to me. They created the anglo-american empire. Now they should live with the consequences without whincing.
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I wondered why the US abandoned Bagram and made their last stand at the regular airport. it would have played out quite differently, but it seems like everyone on both sides stuck to Trump's deal
https://archive.is/eRemL
https://archive.is/eRemL
I read a fascinating article somehwre about how Mullah Omar's strategy was based on messages he received in dreams
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shakahislop
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i don't think they expected to have to do an evacuation like that. i think they thought they would have honestly a year to slowly process visas, move everyone out. the speed of the government's collapse took everyone by surprise, i mean everyone.
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how do you reckon most english people (i guess you're in england) categorise you? i mean you're right obviously, no-one here has any idea what a kurd might be.
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had a chat today in karachi with a guy who worked for the ISI for 16 years, and who has also worked for some very respectable parts of the pakistani government since. so not necessarily a nutter. a closeted nutter at most. he was full of conspiracy theories and stated them like they are facts. they included that daesh are currently in panjshir with saleh and the small afghan resistance. and he also said that the ISI hasn't support the haqqanis since the late 90s. both of these things are completely untrue i think.
has generally been interesting in pakistan to hear how middle class pakistanis see afghanistan, and how little responsibility they take for what's happened over there over the years. there is no sense that they feel responsible for their governments support to the taliban, and to be honest it seems like they don't even know. whereas among afghans and foreigners working on afghanistan, it's taken as read that this is the case, and that pakistan is one of the main parties to the conflict there. i prefer english and american liberal handwringing myself, compared to this denial.
has generally been interesting in pakistan to hear how middle class pakistanis see afghanistan, and how little responsibility they take for what's happened over there over the years. there is no sense that they feel responsible for their governments support to the taliban, and to be honest it seems like they don't even know. whereas among afghans and foreigners working on afghanistan, it's taken as read that this is the case, and that pakistan is one of the main parties to the conflict there. i prefer english and american liberal handwringing myself, compared to this denial.
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I wrote a long reply and failed to hit post reply, this redux is not all that, sorry! Yes I meant women actioning, only lived in Dubai with an Iranian immigrant who came there with nothing. She is incredible. Totally a feminist… and too many other women to mention, what they do. My Iranian friend has read De Lauretis not Butler at this point!