trance (?)
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is not like other people
classic/cliché idm description "like a washing machine full of spanners / falling down the stairs" i got told my stuff sounded like a fax machine once
#1 Baby Invasion
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always been at best ambivalent where tarnce is concerned, though i remember these as being pretty WHOA inducing when i first heard them:
it can also sound kind of cool when slowed down:
it can also sound kind of cool when slowed down:
IdleRich
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I know I'm replying to someone who ain't here but I saw this vid today (maybe old news, maybe staged, who knows) and wholesome was the best word for it
dilbert1
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This is the only straight up Trance tune I’ve ever known and actually enjoyed. Major sampling potential in the intro which is pretty gorgeous. And even features a “motherfuckin’ breakbeat” along the way. Still goofy but one of those tracks where I feel if you’ve heard it, you’ve heard them all or basically the best of the genre as far as I can go with it. Maybe I’m wrong tho
IdleRich
IdleRich
No idea as to the genre but I find it (the first one) a very strange tune in that the intro has this kinda militaristic martial beat which, especially at this tempo, is normally a sign which I read as "hold on to your hats, you're about to be pummeled into submission and then stomped into the floor by unrelentingly punishing jackbooted murder beats, supplemented by sinister chords and fx - and some terrifying vocal samples if we ca find anything nasty enough" - but somehow they take it in the other way and make it sound... "nice" which was the very last thing I expected.
I found myself cautiously raising my head above the parapet, looking around warily, ready to duck in case the expected assault did materialize - but it never did. So whatever genre, I give it points for so comprehensively wrong-footing me.
dilbert1
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@IdleRich that’s exactly what I like about it, the wrong-footing bit, I tried listening to the producer’s other stuff under his ‘New Decade’ moniker but none of it has the same out-loud ‘93 composite rave pluralism, which is all the more notable as the different sub-genres of hardcore and techno were crystallizing, the ‘expected assaults’ increasingly rote. Would love to find some more like it
IdleRich
IdleRich
Thing is, although with a concerted effort of the dissensus hive mind we've been able to find a few tolerable trance bits, for me it's not enough to make a night. At the moment I'd still be struggling to make it from midnight until six am or so no matter how many bumbles I shoved down my neck. I guess that's the advantage of those raves with all those flyers saying "85 stages, 273 DJs, 432 MCs - Jungle, Trance, Techno, Acid Techno, Psy-Trance etc" that you can dip in and out as you please. It's a totally different clubbing experience from what I'm used to at least over the last twenty years or so. I guess my choice is one room with someone playing music I really like, and maybe a second room with a distinctly different sound, maybe I'm just too tight to pay for the 84 stages I'm not experiencing at any given movement. Pretty sure that some people LOVE trance and stay in the trance room all night so somehow I doubt that the reason for the 85 stages is for dilettantes to just go in when they're playing uplifting military trance.
I'm just too old for those things with a million people I guess. Novi Sad has this big fuck off fortress thing on the hill on the other side of the river (apparently it was being built for such a long time that while it was being erected they invented heavy cannon which made it obsolete) and we walked around the huge place. It's now most famous for Exit Festival and Igor was showing me where all the stages are. Then on youtube showed me the festival, and... everyone thinks it's the best thing ever, but to me, that enormous space, jam packed with people like sardines, a one-way system so you have to go clockwise round the castle, can't go back to the previous stage if you like it more than the one you're at, you gotta go all round the castle, if you lose your mates you can forget 'em - in fact I've been told you effectively go on your own cos you're certain to lose whoever you go with in about ten seconds and never see em again. Is that fun? Not for me.
I'm just too old for those things with a million people I guess. Novi Sad has this big fuck off fortress thing on the hill on the other side of the river (apparently it was being built for such a long time that while it was being erected they invented heavy cannon which made it obsolete) and we walked around the huge place. It's now most famous for Exit Festival and Igor was showing me where all the stages are. Then on youtube showed me the festival, and... everyone thinks it's the best thing ever, but to me, that enormous space, jam packed with people like sardines, a one-way system so you have to go clockwise round the castle, can't go back to the previous stage if you like it more than the one you're at, you gotta go all round the castle, if you lose your mates you can forget 'em - in fact I've been told you effectively go on your own cos you're certain to lose whoever you go with in about ten seconds and never see em again. Is that fun? Not for me.
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IdleRich
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For me a good party is a room that holds 200 and has maybe... say 170 people who are into it there. A great vibe, feels fullish, but you got room to dance, you don't have to fight your way to the bog or bar. I just don't get those EDM festivals - not cos of the music, but cos there are a million people squashed together, no dancing but if you can extricate your arm and lift it up you can probably pump it in time with the music. I guess you can jump up and down too as long as you do it in time with the people next to you.
Has anyone ever written about how that environment affected the music? I mean it's sort of post-dance music in that it's no longer for dancing, it superficially looks like dance music but it's made for an environment with moshing, there's no need for a groove as such, it would be superfluous.
Has anyone ever written about how that environment affected the music? I mean it's sort of post-dance music in that it's no longer for dancing, it superficially looks like dance music but it's made for an environment with moshing, there's no need for a groove as such, it would be superfluous.
#1 Baby Invasion
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there was a time when this kind of writing was totally normal and we didn't think it was weird at all. some people even talked like that irl. in, like, 1993 this was completely acceptable.