Commander Keen
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Mostly agree w/ all that except for V Delay & Warp. The Four Quarters is his best since Multila and the new Chris Clark is fantastic, as well.
Apart from the fact that I disagree with you about Warp (Clark, Jackson, Grizzly Bear, all strong albums), it's not very polite to speak with such condescension about a label where one of the by far most knowledgeable and insightful people around here works.but just everyone PLEASE stop listening to anything on Warp, Rephlex (dubstep excepted), and what's that other one...
Skam, Planet Mu? Yeah I think all the most well known of the British electronica labels lost it after maybe 2001/2002... Jackson's album on Warp was pretty good, though. Squarepusher, Aphex, Boards, they're not really pushing things anymore. That last Squarepusher album could've come out in '99, easily.
i think idm is a bit of a fallacy really, i don't really think warp rephlex planet mu have at anytime been idm labels although they have had acts that have been described like that.
There are labels that describe themselves as idm and they're mainly american, and have no relationship things like detroit techno, hardcore, jungle, modern electronics and raving etc, their relationship is to warp acts mainly.
exactly my point, it's a 2nd hand genre,
0.1% of music is new/original and the rest is copying. 1% of music is really inspired, cool, outstanding copying. the remaining 98.9% is shit of course.
also:
I don't think there is much of a line to draw between the "original wave of electronica" of the 90s and techno producers of the 80s. what is carl craig? what about derrick may's ambient stuff? quoth by aphex is just banging techno really. etc.
I love Mum's first two albums for super melodic slow beats with fractured vocals. It's not really your classic IDM, but more beautiful dreamy stuff.
Same for Susuma Yakota's 'Sakura' and 'Grinning Cat' - chilled stuff with some underlying blunted house beats in parts, especially on the latter.
Yeah, the point when I began to worry about things was when IDM went from meaning "more or less anything influenced by dance music but weird and intended more for home listening than purely for clubbing" to specifically meaning "glitchy or crunchy hip hop influenced beats possibly with ambient influenced melodies."classic idm is often a name for sub, blanded out early aphex/boards/black dog/autechre type gear. not altogether very interesting imo.