0bleak

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what were you doing aged 24

off the top of my head... working administrative or security apprenticeships at a nuclear waste site, alternately being a failure and a success at u of cincinnati depending on the class (altho I did make the dean's list one time), DJing a little, clubbing a little, going to "parties", dating a little, chatting to people on the net like on irc, and other internet shit, visiting my brother in japan, making semi-regular visits to friends in chicago or other places, buying and listening to music and keeping up with new music...
 

luka

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i dunno what hes on about either but i do think there's something noble in the pretentiousness of it. it's swashbuckling. i wouldn't and couldn't write like that but i did find his example inspiring.
 

sus

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i dunno what hes on about either but i do think there's something noble in the pretentiousness of it. it's swashbuckling. i wouldn't and couldn't write like that but i did find his example inspiring.
Only halfrelated but I've been thinking of manifestos as user manuals, lately. (More than statements about Art in general.) It's an obvious thing to do but it's made me appreciate the torm more.
 

0bleak

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Storytime

It's not as fancy as it sounds. I also used the wrong word, sorry. I meant to say intern, not apprenticeship (wtf was I thinking?!)
After moving to Cincinnati and trying to make it at u of c satellite school, my parents had jobs at a nuclear waste clean-up site, and "college" age people could do "intern" jobs there - they actually paid ok, too.
I had a few there over the course of a couple of years.
One of them, probably the most boring (but really easy at least), was basically being in charge of all of the conference room schedules with all of the different conference rooms and the thousands of people that worked there.
Another one was on the actual waste site outside of cincinnati where security was kind of tight. I basically helped get all of the new "first day" people squared away and cleared.
Another one was basically scouring the internet and printing out job listings for people that were getting laid off.
 

luka

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Is this the Region, this the Soil, the Clime,
Said then the lost Arch-Angel, this the seat
That we must change for Heav'n, this mournful gloom
For that celestial light? Be it so, since he [ 245 ]
Who now is Sovran can dispose and bid
What shall be right: fardest from him is best
Whom reason hath equald, force hath made supream
Above his equals. Farewel happy Fields
Where Joy for ever dwells: Hail horrours, hail [ 250 ]
Infernal world, and thou profoundest Hell
Receive thy new Possessor: One who brings
A mind not to be chang'd by Place or Time.
The mind is its own place, and in it self
Can make a Heav'n of Hell, a Hell of Heav'n. [ 255 ]
What matter where, if I be still the same,
And what I should be, all but less then he
Whom Thunder hath made greater? Here at least
We shall be free; th' Almighty hath not built
Here for his envy, will not drive us hence: [ 260 ]
Here we may reign secure, and in my choyce
To reign is worth ambition though in Hell:
Better to reign in Hell, then serve in Heav'n.
But wherefore let we then our faithful friends,
Th' associates and copartners of our loss [ 265 ]
Lye thus astonisht on th' oblivious Pool,
And call them not to share with us their part
In this unhappy Mansion, or once more
With rallied Arms to try what may be yet
Regaind in Heav'n, or what more lost in Hell? [
 

0bleak

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What did it consist of?

You mean my parent's jobs there?
My mom was the head of like six departments (at least one department she created herself) managing a total of something like ~150 people.
My stepdad was like the "chief information officer"/head IT guy or something like that. He got some kind of federal govt award at some point for recognition of his work, if I recall correctly.
This is all like 30 years ago so the details are kind of a hazy and fuzzy.
They were with Fluor which was the company my stepdad joined after he stopped teaching civil engineering at UK in Lexington, KY, altho he was first with them doing some other kind of work in Greenville, SC which was why we moved there back in the day. I think his work with them was, at first, more based around his civil engineering expertise but then he got more into the programming side of things which, I guess, kind of caused a major shift in his professional career for the rest of his working years.

The site near Cincinnati (altho some jobs were off site in Cincinnati itself);
"Fluor Fernald, part of the Fluor Corporation, was awarded the contract in 1992 for cleanup of the site. Fluor Fernald completed their portion of the cleanup in October 2006, 12 years ahead of schedule and 7.8 billion dollars below the original cost estimate."
^but they left that site well before, after only a few years, and were transferred to a place in eastern washington state (a rather desolate place in my opinion):
"Established in 1943 as part of the Manhattan Project, the site was home to the Hanford Engineer Works and B Reactor, the first full-scale plutonium production reactor in the world. Plutonium manufactured at the site was used in the first atomic bomb, which was tested in the Trinity nuclear test, and in the Fat Man bomb used in the bombing of Nagasaki."
they were there for many years and then started working at
Then they retired a number of years ago.
 
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version

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I find henry miller repulsive but i just picked up a free coopy of plexus off the street

Get the Rimbaud one.

"Baudelaire merely laid his heart bare; Rimbaud plucks his heart out and devours it slowly. And so the world gradually comes to resemble the time of the curse. The birds drop from the air, dead before they arrive. The wild beasts gallop to the sea and plunge. The grass withers, the seed rots. Nature takes on the barren, deformed look of a miser, and the heavens mirror the emptiness of the earth. The poet, jaundiced from riding the wild mare over lakes of steaming asphalt, slits its throat. In vain he flaps his rudimentary wings. The Fabulous opera collapses and howling wind rends the props. Save for the furious and most ancient witches, the heath is deserted. Like harpies, armed each and every one with grappling hooks, they fall upon him. Theirs is a more earnest greeting than that visionary brush with his Satanic Majesty. Nothing lacks now to complete the concert of hells he once begged for."​
 

version

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Get the Rimbaud one.

"Baudelaire merely laid his heart bare; Rimbaud plucks his heart out and devours it slowly. And so the world gradually comes to resemble the time of the curse. The birds drop from the air, dead before they arrive. The wild beasts gallop to the sea and plunge. The grass withers, the seed rots. Nature takes on the barren, deformed look of a miser, and the heavens mirror the emptiness of the earth. The poet, jaundiced from riding the wild mare over lakes of steaming asphalt, slits its throat. In vain he flaps his rudimentary wings. The Fabulous opera collapses and howling wind rends the props. Save for the furious and most ancient witches, the heath is deserted. Like harpies, armed each and every one with grappling hooks, they fall upon him. Theirs is a more earnest greeting than that visionary brush with his Satanic Majesty. Nothing lacks now to complete the concert of hells he once begged for."​
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