Neon Screams!
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- blessing of the ayatollah fear ears the soul get your kit off goldsmiths shag-a-thon kit got the bag kitsch mackintosh mack daddy mackintosh plus medusa's bally mick cackintosh moronic political conclusions mugged off mumble writer new cross cultural mafia patron of the arts patty: toxic avenger penmanship radio 4 book of the week sean connery pronouncing the title shotta squat rackintosh the politics of book reviews the whitest man who ever lived vybz and nobel white nerds a wailing
I never argued it was analogous to Roger Troutman, I'm saying this argument of futurism kind of restricts mackintosh's main argument, which I agree with. Once I stopped expecting it to blow my mind, I was able to focus on the other details which seemed peripheral.
If he was to re-write the book I'd say cut out the futurist/mind blowing guff (that in itself is dated) and you have a much more persuasive book. although patty will still be a grumbling curmudgeon, impossible to please him now that he's in Berlin.
the hardcore continuum of yesteryear is history. That is where it attains its true brilliance but also that makes the job of music critics infinitely more harder. Barty didn't want to be a critic so he didn't pick fights with Muggs, etc. and I don't blame him. He is trying to think outside of that box.
You're laughing (and I never liked PC music myself) but isn't this Kieran's type of music? actually it was barty's music before he decided to get into rap in 2017. remember his bandcamp phase?
I like this. the disintegration of masculinity in realtime. To me it's more interesting than the hannah diamond thing because it's not cute.
tbf the US rap is not as good as this stuff and anyone who argues otherwise is silly.
I'm not even particularly fond of it, but like with other things, I can find things about it that i think are interesting.
Same with someone like charli xcx.
pattycakes_
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@thirdform it's not about being a curmudgeon it's about being someone who doesn't need to entertain himself with theory style analytics of art. A lot of what goes on here just smacks of people wanting to be with it when there's nothing left to be with. But if you lot really like autotune rap then good for you. Personally I can't be fucked and see no fruit in pulling it apart like some academic. I'll just keep looking for stuff I actually like and keep enjoying that. Even if it means going backwards. I get that Dissensus is a theory place but it's also a music place and that's what I'm here for, along with the wholesome brotherly love.
charli xcx would be much better if she didn't just repackage dizzee rascal's pop phase for the upstate new york hipster crowd.
Kinda feel soiled posting this because it could never match the heights of Boy in da Corner but
I'm not against you being a curmudgeon. I just think you should become full curmudgeon.
pattycakes_
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Not currently in Berlin. Been avoiding it most of this year. It has zero impact on anything I say wrt music and hasn't for at least since covid
william_kent
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I don't know if you're saying that in seriousness, but I 100% assure you that is not the case.
I don't think they're all that which is why they're often set on private, and why I refer to myself as a novice amateur - but that's exactly the reason I'm so disappointed with the status quo when I've discovered so much of stuff that can be done now with just a few months of tinkering around in ableton (and I'm STILL having trouble getting my head around a lot of it), and yet here where the state of popular music is.
wektor
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You’ll get really really stuck once you figure out the basics through medium-advanced
wektor
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Everyone just wants to do ket and be pushed around the dance floor
wektor
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This is why I couldn’t have been more glad to attend a 10h reggaeton street party on kings day.
The global south is the only option maybe for many reasons but mostly it’s because there people still care about dancing as a social thing rather than this autistic zonking out on the dance floor solo
But you are fucked, even more than I am. I don't even care to make grand statements about the decline or the stasis of modern music simply because I know that we are in a conservative and counter-revolutionary period, and that the form of society determines its social content.
interesting new music will come when the divisions in society lead to cataclysmic rupture. Inevitably so. Even the likes of jungle and acid were an outgrowth of the 60s (not in the banal hippie sense) but through the restructuring (technological and social) of labour as a result of increased worker militancy.
It also explains why rave culture had to die. It ultimately was thatchers child.
It also explains why rave culture had to die. It ultimately was thatchers child.
you go to dance with a partner then?
that seems weird to me and less liberating, and almost seems like the kind of thing that's getting close to having "prescribed" dance moves
or maybe I don't know what you mean by "autistic zonking out on the dance floor solo"