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IdleRich

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I know a guy who works for a rich philanthropist. the office is closed but the rich boss still needs to get his mail. so a couple of times a week, my friend goes to the office building in midtown in the 50s at 2:00 am, picks up the mail, and walks all the way to the rich boss's apartment building on the upper east side in the 70s, drops the mail in the lobby with the doorman and walks home to the east village. on average, he said he sees just one other person on the street in the whole 2.5-3 hours of walking. i would so love to roam the city right now.
What's to stop you doing that? Or something similar anyhow.
 

Mr. Tea

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I know a guy who works for a rich philanthropist. the office is closed but the rich boss still needs to get his mail. so a couple of times a week, my friend goes to the office building in midtown in the 50s at 2:00 am, picks up the mail, and walks all the way to the rich boss's apartment building on the upper east side in the 70s, drops the mail in the lobby with the doorman and walks home to the east village. on average, he said he sees just one other person on the street in the whole 2.5-3 hours of walking. i would so love to roam the city right now.

Reminds me of walking to a tube station at 7 am on a Sunday in the summer after clubbing, still high af, glorious sunshine, nobody about except a few other reprobates here and there maybe - but it's best when the streets are totally deserted.

Of course, that was in the Before Time...
 

yyaldrin

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police killed a boy in brussels yesterday, i think we're gonna see a lot more of this. you can't quarantine anger.

 

Leo

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yeah, I should do it. wish I could find someone to accompany me, more fun to share the experience. maybe I'll ask my friend who does it a 2:00 am for work!
 

IdleRich

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Yeah just go with. Could be fun.
Feels like people are splitting into two groups - those who are exploring the empty towns and so on and making the best of it. And those like this quote I pulled from a fb friend who are... more in the other camp shall we say.

People who post their happy pictures in empty towns , doing jogging or whatever they shouldn’t do during the quarantine , I will delete from my fb friends. You are passive murderers , you help to spread the virus and you don’t care if because of you someone can die! You fuck up all efforts the others do to stop this pandemic!!!

Actually that fucking bugs me. The rules here specifically say that you CAN go jogging so she's not even being a suck-up to the real fucking rules.
 

Leo

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yeah...if you are out with a face mask, not touching your face, there's no one in sight and you wash your hands upon getting home, I really doubt you're spreading the virus or endangering others.
 

Mr. Tea

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Eek indeed. That's the end game the paranoids have been warning of for decades

Well the East Asian countries are in general both much better organised than we are and more authoritarian. This has clear advantages in terms of slowing the spread of a pandemic, as well as drawbacks. Our government can't even sort out an adequate supply of cheap disposable masks for hospital workers.
 

Leo

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but looks like even they are encountering a rebound of infections. no matter how long people stay on lockdown, the virus seems to reemerge once people do.
 

IdleRich

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So Spain is relaxing rules a little, I seem to be hearing that kind of idea from everywhere at the moment, exit strategies being discussed all over the shop and so on. Seems premature to me, I get the impression that governments are basically a bit bored and are just kinda going "fuck it, let's get on with shit".
 

Leo

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most governments are ruled by business and the economy, so they're itching to get things back up and running. they know it's too early and a return now will set us back but don't care.
 

IdleRich

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It does feel weird that Spain is relaxing restrictions, they are next door to us obviously, can imagine we'll be watching jealously across the border.
 

Mr. Tea

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It really looks as though, when the dust clears, the two countries (in the north or the developed or western world or whatever you want to call it) that have had the worst official, national response led by their governments are gonna be the US and UK. Fucking anglo dickheads.

Meant to reply to this earlier, but it's worth pointing out that my brother in Australia tells me that Scott Morrison over there has been equally, or almost equally, useless. By all accounts he's a sort of mini-Trump except with even stronger links to the coal industry - and corresponding interest in climate change denial - and a sideline in nutty evangelical Christianity. Australia hasn't been too badly affected so far, I think, but their very low population density and the fact that they have decent public health care must be helping a lot.

In this country specifically, every aspect of the official response has the hallmark of this shitty right-wing populism that's completely taken over in recent years. You've got the total contempt for science and expertise, except where it backs up an official line that's already been decided on, or can be twisted to make it look that way. There's a bogus idea of "self-sufficiency" rooted in xenophobia and exceptionalism (the refusal to take part in the EU ventilator scheme). The obsession with masculine strength, so that Boris Johnson pulled through because he's a "fighter" (rather than because he obviously received the best possible medical care). The idea that young people are "snowflakes", so that it's mainly people in late middle age who are totally ignoring social distancing rules, despite being at much higher risk than their children and grandchildren. And so on.
 
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