luka said:lets face it, grime is shit. it didn't used to be, it probably doesn't have to be, but it is.
what went wrong?
was it MCs realising there wasn't millions to be made? that the scene wasn't going to break through en masse and revolutionise the british music industry? that beleif they could make it seemed to fuel a lot of the belief and drive and fervour of the scene.
was it trying to be hiphop? the sub hiphop stuff really is intolerable. gangsterz? no thanks mate. know we was much better. what a regression. wiley lost it years ago,at least as an MC.
is it that beef bollocks? no raves? no record sales? hipster acclaim?
how come NO MC EVER GOT BETTER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ? how come everyone just stayed on the same level or deteriorated?
what happened to new talent? how come no one has come along (apart from a couple,doctor for example) who is on the same level or better as the first stars like shark major,dizzee and d double? how come the nasty crew sets from de ja are still the best thing to have emerged from the scene? why are the youngers all so bad? what went wrong?
OH MY DAYS.... what are you on luka??!! wiley's about a million times better than he was a couple of years ago... no new mc's??.... scorcher, fuda guy, dolla. No good youngers??... devlin, ears, lightning. Nearly EVERY mc is better than they were a few of years, some massively so.. Slicks, Stryder, Footsie, SKEPTA & JME!!!! and how can you still be stuck on the nasty crew deja vu sets.. haven't you heard any ruff sqwad sets from the last 18 months?? ok, there's loads of shit mcs around, but there always were.. the good ones are much better though.
ok, the beats have changed quite a lot, and there is something great about hearing the minimal, bass heavy riddims from early grime... BUT there's still LOADS of great beats being made.. Duppy and shangooli (scratchy's one) are as good as anything done from 2002-03..
i dunno, maybe you suddenly felt ridiculous listening to teenagers spittin about shankin eachother in the ribs. fair enough. that doesn't mean grime has suddenly become shit though.