Clinamenic

Binary & Tweed
It got to a point where every note I was making in my pocketbook would have constituted a breakthrough two years prior. Nonlinear progress, ebbs and flows, net exponential, etc.
 

woops

is not like other people
I think I mentioned this once before, but Heineken (or "heinnies", as we called them) used to be considered top-shelf here, back before we had many other imported beer and local brews. It was the earliest import in my neck of the woods (the first green bottle I ever saw), premium priced and stronger than bud or miller.
Yes, some years ago a friend of mine connected with some beer aficionados in the US and after trying a few, they told him "this is our favourite, this is what we drink" and got out the Stellas! He didn't tell them it's known as wifebeater
 

catalog

Well-known member
There's a certain Stella which you can't get in England anymore, the one actually brewed in leuven and its truly delicious. Sometimes you'd get one from the offy and it was a nice bonus
 

IdleRich

IdleRich
there are some pubs which dont serve an adult beer and if you ended up in one and couldnt escape then you should follow the course of action outlined above similarly if you have gone round someones house and they dont have an adult beer on offer for you, resort to the hipflask
My understanding is that Heineken is ok but they served a shitty weak version in UK. Later they wanted to move upmarket and so they reintroduced the one every other country had and called it Heineken Export and now that version is served everywhere like a proper beer to gullible brits who think they are getting something special.
Is it not Heineken that had a really famous and successful marketing campaign - the first of its kind - in the early 20th century when it was introduced to the US; they paid models and beautiful people to go to bars and ostentatiously ask for Heineken - and, if it wasn't available, leave, equally ostentatious.
 

IdleRich

IdleRich
On the day last weekend when I had 12 pints, at the end of thd night, that same woman who I took to see the tree called me over as I was leaving, to talk to this sound system guy who is growing a banana tree.

So I was trying to explain my project to him, the GANs, the marriage of nature and technology, apophenia, forest bathing etc and at one point he had to stop me and told me simply

"Can you back off out of my face please".

Is that the sort of breakthrough you are talking about or am I on the wrong track?
Happens to me all the time, I think it's a mark of respect.
 

IdleRich

IdleRich
My understanding is that Heineken is ok but they served a shitty weak version in UK. Later they wanted to move upmarket and so they reintroduced the one every other country had and called it Heineken Export and now that version is served everywhere like a proper beer to gullible brits who think they are getting something special.
Is it not Heineken that had a really famous and successful marketing campaign - the first of its kind - in the early 20th century when it was introduced to the US; they paid models and beautiful people to go to bars and ostentatiously ask for Heineken - and, if it wasn't available, leave, equally ostentatious.
Just read @Leo's post above, I think they are somehow opposite sides of the same coin.
 
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IdleRich

IdleRich
I think what I was getting at is that Heineken is a beer that has been both unfairly slated and unrealistically feted depending on where people stood in relation to the narrative which ruled at the time. Or something but that was a nice rhyme anyhow.
 

catalog

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this export/domestic thing is interesting isn't it. in croatia i had a guiness export in a bottle that was really nice, so bitter. i don't think we get that in the uk (not that i've ever ordered one, i would always just get a pint, and i've not had a pint of guiness for 5 years).

you've then got the aforementioned case of the delicious stellas.

and it sounds like there is heineken export that is delicous that they get in america - do we get that here?
 

catalog

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Guinness Foreign Extra is in every offy chief. Most pubs here stock it by bottle, Jamaican/Bajan favourite
this one was categorically a different size to those ultra small jamaican ones. i know the ones you mean though. i should get one in. and maybe one of those tonic wines as well.
 
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