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  1. padraig (u.s.)

    Since it's been a while since we had an Israel/Palestine thread...

    For anyone who doesn't know, the Kahanists, ultranationalists, etc just had a big conference about resettling Gaza. The usual suspects; Ben-Gvir, Smotrich, Daniella Weiss, about 1/3 of the current Likud MKs...
  2. padraig (u.s.)

    Since it's been a while since we had an Israel/Palestine thread...

    Recognition is better than nothing but I'd wait to see what they or anyone actually means by "Palestinian state". If it's a chopped up WB mess where Israel retains full military control then it's not much of a step. Having said that, there is an urgent need for some legally recognized...
  3. padraig (u.s.)

    Since it's been a while since we had an Israel/Palestine thread...

    In re suspending aid, I could also mention that IDF soldiers have been charged with involvement in terrorism i.e. And I don't hear any of the Western govts pearlclutching about UNRWA talking about suspending military aid to Israel
  4. padraig (u.s.)

    Since it's been a while since we had an Israel/Palestine thread...

    It's probably true. It shouldn't be surprising that militants have day jobs, and that some of them work at one of the largest employers (maybe the largest? not sure) in Gaza. It's also a terrible reason to suspend aid. Something like a million and a half people are starving and you're going to...
  5. padraig (u.s.)

    Since it's been a while since we had an Israel/Palestine thread...

    "Most moral army in the world" These are just from the last couple days. There has been an endless stream of similar Tiktoks from IDF soldiers, bragging about blowing up universities, ethnically cleansing Gaza, etc.
  6. padraig (u.s.)

    Witness the Fitness

    Bodybuilding is really its own strange cult even within strength athletics. Ofc there's overlap with powerlifting and strongman (weightlifting not as much) but the focus on aesthetics rather than performance takes it to really strange places. That's especially true of modern bodybuilding with...
  7. padraig (u.s.)

    Witness the Fitness

    I have, yeah. It's impossible to be around strength athletics and not have heard about him even if you're not on Tiktok which I think is his main platform. Definitely juiced out of his mind on tren and whatever other compounds, as well as ofc test and hgh. I don't have a problem with it. Unlike...
  8. padraig (u.s.)

    Since it's been a while since we had an Israel/Palestine thread...

    Also for anyone who doesn't already know, the inevitable Mossad assassination campaign has begun https://www.axios.com/2024/01/02/hamas-saleh-al-arouri-killed-beirut-hamas-hezbollah Solid chance it will be the flashpoint for a more general Israel-Hezb conflict, possibly even the regional...
  9. padraig (u.s.)

    Since it's been a while since we had an Israel/Palestine thread...

    On the positive side, there are still real Israeli heroes, like this guy
  10. padraig (u.s.)

    Since it's been a while since we had an Israel/Palestine thread...

    So for those still paying attention, the ethnic cleansing talk, under the truly Orwellian guise of "voluntary emigration", has ramped up so hard that the State Depth had to personally rebuke Smotrich and Ben-Gvir Ben-Gvir, who again is the Minister of Security, specifically said Israel would...
  11. padraig (u.s.)

    Locker room talk: rolling basketball thread

    tbh I find this kind of thing much more interesting than arguing about who's going to win the Western Conference this year or whatever basketball is many things, but one of them is a pretty fascinating lens thru which to view the evolution of American race relations. there are like a hundred...
  12. padraig (u.s.)

    Locker room talk: rolling basketball thread

    important to note that one of those cultural shifts is NBA fandom itself becoming more diverse, both racially and globally. domestically it's like a number of things where as the U.S. becomes more diverse, the primacy of the white/black binary weakens or at least is complicated, while still...
  13. padraig (u.s.)

    Locker room talk: rolling basketball thread

    it's racial in two, related senses. first, in the sense that almost every element of American culture has some kind of racial subtext (or just text) lurking under the surface. that is especially pronounced in basketball obviously, a sport not only dominated at the professional level by black...
  14. padraig (u.s.)

    Since it's been a while since we had an Israel/Palestine thread...

    Both would be my guess As well as the typical mista'arvim etc undercover security forces
  15. padraig (u.s.)

    Since it's been a while since we had an Israel/Palestine thread...

    Well sure the Israeli answer is to just blame everything on Hamas and ignore the obvious consequences of destroying Gaza. The degree to which that's intentional at a policy level vs simple callousness is what's unclear. As I said idk if they'll walk away, tho for security rather than any kind...
  16. padraig (u.s.)

    Since it's been a while since we had an Israel/Palestine thread...

    It's alrite dude I'm not expecting people to have the same level of engagement I do, especially about Israeli politics and society, but yeah I think it's a good rule of thumb for any American to at least try to know something about any war our govt is funding, whether that's in Ukraine or...
  17. padraig (u.s.)

    Since it's been a while since we had an Israel/Palestine thread...

    The alternative is the eternal Israeli fantasy of refugees camps in the Sinai, which besides being a total nonstarter with Egypt would just take the humanitarian disaster and move it a few miles south. What's your answer here? Incidentally there was an editorial in Haaretz today calling for a...
  18. padraig (u.s.)

    Since it's been a while since we had an Israel/Palestine thread...

    I'd agree there is a point at which indifference and dehumanization combine to create purposeful targeting of civilian. I'm talking more at the policy level. IDF high command isn't setting out to kill as many civilians as possible. The IDF are like American cops (or maybe just cops in...
  19. padraig (u.s.)

    Since it's been a while since we had an Israel/Palestine thread...

    Sure. "Administer" is probably a euphemism at this point, but what better word would you suggest? UNRWA and other NGOs will do their best to combat the humanitarian disaster but there will have to be some kind of administrative body. The alternative is direct Israeli rule.
  20. padraig (u.s.)

    Since it's been a while since we had an Israel/Palestine thread...

    Neither of those points are really true The IDF isn't trying to maximize civilian casualties - tho idk if that was exactly your meaning - it just doesn't care about them as a general rule. When the eyes of Western media are on them they make a big show of the "most moral army on earth" nonsense...
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