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Nah, most Oyster cards are registered. I think you can still get one 'anonymously', and presumably you could make stuff up on the form, but you do need to register it if you want to put a season ticket on it. Individually identifiable information about journeys is kept for eight weeks and then...

what do you mean by 'real use'? It's quite easy to use that data, as you say marketers do it all the time. All that's needed for the purposes of planning services, or stocking shelves, is the figures.

I don't know why anyone in government would want to track your movements but if they did then looking up your Oyster card would be a pretty good way. The system seems to work quite well actually. Supermarkets are keen for you to register a 'reward' card so they can target you with ads for stuff...

Uh, Mr. Tea you are the one who has mentioned 'Big Brother', the government and 'sinister implications'. Seems more like you are one of those guys who likes to imagine they see 'those guys' everywhere.

Big Brother?

Yeah, no doubt. I shouldn't worry though, if you've nothing to hide you've nothing to fear. This is correct. Before the introduction of Oyster cards buses hardly ever moved and when they did they were unable to go up hills due to the vast amounts of change being carried.

It's a reward for providing all that lovely personalised data about your movements. Actually drivers aren't even obliged to take cash on some routes are they? Taking a sightly more generous view maybe the idea is partly to offer lower fares to residents who are more likely to have cards? Which...

Bola's playing tonight at the Whitechapel Gallery. I'd heard he'd 'quite music' a little while ago. Just thought I'd mention it.

Don't many approach this from a pragmatic risk assessment angle anyway? (sure this has been well covered in this thread already...) That is, what's preferable: If we do nothing and it turns out to be true. If we do stuff / stop doing stuff and it turns out to be false. Also I think a general...

I know. I wasn't addressing what your position might be there, nor was I saying either way, either. Something slightly separate, though not really separate. about how AGW can be thought about anyway. What makes you say that from what you've quoted there? Anyway, carry on...

Hmm, maybe something to do with clams causing misunderstanding. You said: Well, it seems to me that judgement may be employed in forming a hypothesis. so judgement is not incompatible with scientific method. So i said that when you say 'scientific method' there you seem really to intend to say...

I think overall you could say that global climate and economics are both fundamentally unpredictable and impossible to model, that is they are chaotic systems. But also in both cases there are subsets of simpler processes and actions that are well understood, and whose effects may be predicted...

What I'm saying is that's why it is taken seriously. The ads on buses might read "There probably is man-made climate change so start doing something about it."

Yes, fair play for bringing it up in this way. Now let me read the rest of what people have said.

Some scientists may hold man-made global warming to be an incontrovertible fact, and you may like to suggest that this clam is not strictly in keeping with scientific method, which may again be fair enough as far as the way in which that claim is presented goes. Perhaps a little hyperbole to...

Surely you don't mean scientific method because employing a reasonable hypothesis is entirely congruent with scientific method. I think what you mean to say is 'absolute proof' which is of course fair enough, I don't disagree there, but I wouldn't say that it's unscientific to suggest that this...

The data can't prove causality. But of course that's not all that climatologists look at is it? For one thing the greenhouse effect with regards to carbon dioxide is well understood. That makes the data far more compelling no?

Maybe the old Trans World Airlines could attempt a relaunch as TW@.

Michael - when you search, click on advanced search and select the "search single content type" tab. Then you should see a tick box to show results as "posts", as opposed to threads. You can save that as a search preference as well I think. Honestly though, the search in this forum software is...

This is still spooky.