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They could throw on the Southwest and Shelflife and Turn-U-On tracks too, make it a double cd retrospective of proto-dubstep.

"you made a burial-explanation mixtape without any El-B?!" Martin I would definitely have included El-B but I no longer have any non-mixed/non-vinyl El-B tracks sadly! Most of my 2-step fandom was via a mixture of mix-CDs, downloads and the ocassional piece of vinyl that found its way to...

This is the mix-tape I made to "explain" Burial to a friend: 1) Nu-Birth - Anytime (Dem 2 Nice & Sleazy Mix) 2) Horsepower Productions - Fist of Fury 3) Skream - Midnight Request Line 4) Wiley - Pick Yourself Up (Target Instrumental Mix) 5) Aaliyah - We Need A Resolution 6) Tricky ft. PJ Harvey...

I reckon Jermaine Dupri/JD is probably as well known as the Neptunes and Timbaland actually - he does so many guest raps and choruses on other records (e.g. the second most recent Mariah single). He just isn't name-dropped in non-rap/R&B circles to the same extent as the more obviously auterist...

I think the proliferation of sub-genre terms in dance music has less to do with something inherent to dance music's construction relative to rock and more to do with the way that we talk and think about these two broad churches of genres. In rock we're almost always grouping things by artists -...

Jermaine Dupri isn't a big name producer?!??!??

I said: "Dubstep tends to resemble post-97 d&b slowed down more than it does pre-97 d&b slowed down, which is maybe 80% of what prevents the genre from fulfilling its potential." and Blackdown said: "this isn't true. there are parts that do resemble it, but much that doesn't." But I'm...

DWD I think it's implicit in this thread that "d&b fans" = "post-97 d&b fans". Dubstep tends to resemble post-97 d&b slowed down more than it does pre-97 d&b slowed down, which is maybe 80% of what prevents the genre from fulfilling its potential.

Jack and Whipping Boy were both good, i seem to remember. (okay stop posting now)

Did anyone like Marion?!?!? I can't even remember what they sounded like now.

The Sundays have not dated terribly, i don't think. But then I have difficulty imagining that they ever sounded "right now" anyway. And I was too young to be into them when they first appeared so I don't really know. I was 14 in 1996/97 and I very much liked Puressence and the first Geneva...

"Is post-punk a form of druidic chanting? Anyone?" Seriously though, the problem isn't that saying "hip hop is post-punk" is rockist or even that it's wrong, it's that it's such a boring way to think about the musics in question - the same kind of boringness that leads that excrutiating Chuck...

This is what nu-rockism gets you! Sometimes I think I imagined Buick6 into existence.

Actually i was hoping this thread would be about Culture Beat and The Real McCoy.

<i>Unclassics</i> is worth it for Geist's remix of Dance Reaction's <i>Disco Train</i> alone. For more obvious italo hit selections (and more consistently enjoyable listens) peeps could try I-F's <i>Mixed Up at the Hague</i> (one of the best mixes ever) or that mix Alexander Robotnik put out...

Yeah most of the time when schaffel is mixed with a straight 4X4 tune the hi-hats drop off for a moment. Mayer's "Love Is Stronger Than Pride" is actually a good track to mix in and out of schaffel with because it doesn't have the hi-hats, just the beat, the triplets, and what sounds like an...

Yeah schaffel is very much in 4/4. If people want to hear examples of microhousey stuff in odd time signatures try Coloma's second album. And Jake Fairley's "Motor" was in 3/4 I think.

Looking forward to hearing this! I was thinking "Ah! Matt likes "Life That We Livin" and the Dubaholics mix of "Beautiful" too!" and then I read the commentary. Matt I still owe you a CD! It is forthcoming soon I promise!

I think a lot of the issues with the 4th Anniversary comp are down to the sequencing - the mix veers all over the place, and doesn't really build momentum, and a lot of the best tracks like Chelonis R Jones' "La Bateau Ivre" or Fuckpony's "Ride The Pony" are given barely a minute to win you...

"That Pitchfork review nails it." Thanks. The album was supposed to be released internationally about a week or so ago I think, but i haven't seen it around. iTunes seem to have it - the album pic flashes up at me every time I'm playing any random Booka Shade track. Simon I really liked...