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    new/nu/neo-pop

    "this sounds exactly like my cup of recombinant tea, what are the records/mix-Cds i should be checking out Tim?" Simon I should add the proviso that it's all in four-to-the-floor! Somehow I don't think you'll like them as much as my list of reference points might reflect... I guess the most...
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    new/nu/neo-pop

    "But that's surely different to AMs and FF, which sound like they could have existed 25 years ago (except that, certainly in the case of Franzzzzz, they wouldn't have made it beyond 3rd on the billl in the Hull Adelphi then)." A lot of the interest in Arctic Monkeys seems to be w/r/t the...
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    new/nu/neo-pop

    "Don't see the comparison with dubstep --- I couldn't be accused of being a fan of dubstep but what is it reviving? Even five years ago, there wasn't anything quite like dubstep is now. It's progress forward is plodding, I agree, but it isn't a retread of twenty years ago." This is true of a...
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    new/nu/neo-pop

    I should note w/r/t my last post that I do actually like Mark's vanguardism definition - I just resent it because I can't use it in relation to most of the music I like.
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    new/nu/neo-pop

    "yeah but if that is true (and i'm not sure i agree with Adorno at all) that equally turns on all attempts to write in the Old Way, including 80s-style retro-futurism, or Franz wish-i-was-a-Postcardism, or dubsteppers with their echo chambers and babylon-shaking subwoofery, or all the breakcore...
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    Roll Deep Grimey Vol 1

    I saw it at JB Hi-Fi.
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    Roll Deep Grimey Vol 1

    Yeah the Roll Deep album was promo'd but I think the record company got cold feet or something. Grimey vol 1 is being distributed through DMC, who do a lot of the big dance releases like the Fabric mixes.
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    Roll Deep Grimey Vol 1

    This has been released in Australia! Somewhat amazingly.
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    new/nu/neo-pop

    "well, except also that there's a long lineage of insanely-hyped-as-essential/important "The Smiths/The Jam/Oasis/the Libertines" reheating that doesn't exist in the same way for "Tubeway Army/Adina Howard/Human League/SOS Band/Spandau Ballet"..." Contrasting the lists like that also makes it...
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    new/nu/neo-pop

    It makes more sense to think of Richard X as a dance music producer who happens to dabble in pop at times than as a "songwriter" - most of his work recently has been remixes, and he's done some pretty awesome ones like his remix of Freeform Five's "No More Conversations". Having said that, I...
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    El-B

    For me, the best breakbeat garage tracks were the big crossover hits that <i>sounded</i> like they were trying to be 2-step anyway, e.g.: KMA - Kaotic Madness Doom's Night (Timo Mass Remix) Jump & Shout (Stanton Warriors Remix) Zed Bias - Ring the Alarm/Jigga Up Wookie - Scrappy M-Dubs - For...
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    El-B

    The dubstep/techno comparison is I guess not particularly literal in sonic terms - I guess i meant that dubstep tunes often feel "caught", trapped in a moment, the way that techno often does.. this is both for better and for worse, depending on one's mood. The basslines are a big part of that...
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    the Change of Heart Thread

    Jazzanova's remix of MJ Cole's "Sincere" is a thing of beauty... but yeah the name makes them very hard to take seriously!
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    El-B

    Oris Jay - classic for "Biggin' Up The Massive" and especially "Brand Nu Flava" (what a stealth bomb of a toon!). Darqwan - classic for "Confused", totally mindblowingly classic for "Nocturnal". Kinda dud for everything else. Hearing him degenerate into sounding like DJ Zinc with a permanent...
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    new/nu/neo-pop

    "If Rachel Stevens is 'even worse', infamously nebulous, I feel that all talk of restoring the semblance of presence to her (T. Ewing on 'nothing good about this goodbye', the Kylie wishes, etc) actually run counterpoint to what I like about her." I think this might be right - upthread I'm...
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    El-B

    BrokenFist, you should hunt down the following tunes: Horsepower Productions - One You Need 2 Banks of Four - Hook and a Line (Zed Bias Remix) ... both awesome examples of (proto)dubstep with female vox.
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    El-B

    It is sad to think that the Ghost stuff is so hard to hear these days. At least with most of the Groove Chronicles stuff or tunes like "Digital", you can find old comps floating around with those tracks in the mix. On a related note, when did the old Hyperdub site go down? I used to enjoy...
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    El-B

    "i'm still trying to work out your overall point, tim? i'm still trying to work out your overall point, tim? that GC material is appreciated by dubsteppers less than Ghost - well probably, but then the very basis for dubstep was a rejection of some of the prevailing 2step elements, esp r&b and...
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    El-B

    i should note that i love the Ghost releases, I'm not trying to imply that they're somehow lesser at all. It was very exciting back in 2001, waiting for new releases and hearing all the ideas bounce back and forth between El-B and his coterie, Horsepower Productions, Zed Bias... I also love...
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    new/nu/neo-pop

    Yeah that's probably right, although again it's hard for me to comment b/c Rachel Stevens has even less media presence in Oz than Girls Aloud do (to some extent I'm forced to appreciate this stuff in the atomised consumer mould you dislike because there literally is no-one I know in real life...
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