New Zealand are saying the virus has been effectively eradicated there.
Holy shit! Alright mixed_biscuits, what's happening with you? Very long time no see.
If there is a vaccine that prevents a highly contagious and potentially fatal disease then why not take it? What am I missing?
Oh shit... get well soon... sprang out of nowhere to share your experience and expertise.
What country are you in these days please biscuits?
cos they're gonna make this one real quick whereas usually it takes years of testing and trials.
I also had the virus a couple of months ago (cough, chills, fatigue, loss of smell)...still have a dry cough and 40% smell
I don't think it's that at all... to me when you could see the number of cases and deaths that were happening in the eastern US and the delay in doing anything at all and then the lack of any travel restrictions within the states, no federal lockdown, huge congregations in churches and so on - all pretty much directly caused (or at least not prevented) by Trump I thought it was completely insane. So now, when they are just approaching 60k deaths a better question to me is how is it that despite the lack of (and wrong-headed) federal leadership it hasn't been worse? When in Italy they were taking it so much more seriously and relatively being hit harder. No moral fable there, it's just we know how it's spread and we know how dangerous it is and we know steps haven't been taken to stop it - it's very straight forward cause and effect.
Similar in UK though not quite as batshit insane as the US as far as I could tell, there is at least a mechanism for a national response which swung into action eventually.
Japan, I'm not sure, I haven't really being following it but I think that they are possibly in the early stages and so we may not be comparing like with like.
This seems real and might be the scariest thing Ive read about corona so far. Feel free not to click.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2020/04/24/strokes-coronavirus-young-patients/
Well I assume that it will still have to meet certain basic standards. I'll doubt (just cos of the way things pan out) that I'll be at the front of the queue to get it, but when I do have the chance I'll take it I guess. I mean of course they can't know the effects in ten years but that's the case with any vaccine for a some x number of years isn't it?cos they're gonna make this one real quick whereas usually it takes years of testing and trials.
Yeah, this is it. It's weird to me that in February (approx) we saw Italy been absolutely ravaged by the disease, there were countless articles talking about the disaster in Italy, the mess that Italy had made of it and so on... then it arrived in UK a month or so later, still no action here... then we followed the exact trajectory of Italy.Italy was the first hit country in Europe and so had the slowest response as they were unprepared and had to instigate a bunch of stuff for the first time outside of Asia. Spain and France were next in line, they got a little bit of a head start, but acted too late to prevent some fairly major impacts. Germany and many countries in Eastern Europe took advantage of the warning and acted fairly decisively and minimised impacts. Of the Nordics, as we have seen, Sweden is by far the worst of in per capita deaths due to lack of rigorous non clinical interventions. New Zealand, which had the most warning did pretty much everything right and have had the best outcomes.
Then we come to the UK. Plenty of warning, enough time to prepare, but they fucked it completely, kept everything open far too long, didn't even ban mass gatherings and pursued herd immunity - hence, probably the worst per capita death rates in the world.
The US - maybe worse, They had even longer to prepare but suffer from even more corrosive political problems, hence the awful human toll and the ongoing crisis that looks set to worsen.
There are all kinds of variables and a thousand ways to fuck this up (like Japan is doing right now), but as Ive said a few times already on this thread, the presence of a psychopathic right wing government made up of incompetent grifters is a pretty good indicator that youre gonna have a very bad response to a pandemic. I wouldve thought that was pretty self evident.
Why should Japan be getting away with it? Or all sorts of other countries? I'm not totally convinced that Johnson and Trump are the only reasons for the high death rates here and in the US. That seems to conviently moral a fable.
Portugal to end state of emergency. The country’s president announces that its state of emergency will end at the weekend. Marcelo Rebelo de Sousa says the third such 15-day period will end at midnight on Saturday and “we hope it will not be necessary to use it again in the future”.