Hip Hop '11

luka

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the first lil boosie thing i got into was on youtube. it was a video that was a bit lik an sbtv video, on the street with his scary looking mates and they had so much gun it was unbelievable. im not going to lie i was sort of transifxed by this video of men waving guns about. the song is we out chea. probably youve seen it corpsey. for anyone else

fuck the police is the best thing ive heard maybe. all the things with webbie sem good. i also really like chill out, long journey, gin in my cup, most things ive heard really. lots of random youtube things and thug passion and superbad mixtapes.
if you like gun videos this is one of the best ones too i think
 

Corpsey

bandz ahoy
boosieguns.jpg


:eek:

''Yeah. I think I WILL buy that mixtape, actually, now I think about it.''

woohdakidguns.jpg


The gun in the video for 'Body Bags' is noteworthy. I seem to remember reading in a comment under it that it's illegal to own/hold/tote one in America and so they had to shoot the video in Mexico. Can't find the comment now, but the top rated comment alerted me to this:

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''Ooohhh shit lmao, look at the idian kid behind wooh da kid at 2:25 lmaooo
casechesse''

Plus any excuse to post that video up cos 'Body Bags' is the GOAT tune ever.



Listened to a few of those Boosie bits Luka and they are great. It's weird the way his helium-rich snarl plays off against big booming 808s. He sounds contemptuous towards the size of the beats. Dr. Dre used to have that quality - but more so, as if he was too cool to even be the coolest rapper/producer in the world... Anyway, it makes him sound NASTY. One of my hip-hop obsessed mates who I'm trying to wean off 'true skool' 80s/90s New York worship is currently getting massively into Boosie. He's a really good rapper, though, the voice gives you the mistaken impression at first that he's a novelty rapper but his lyrics can be surprisingly deep.

I'm sure you've heard 'Mind of a Maniac' and 'Top To The Bottom'?
 
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luka

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i read someone somewhere comparing boosie to some old delta blues singer or something which seemed apt. like the neptunes comparing mystikal to james brown. they are good comparisons. i have heard those two songs but i they are not things i really listen to. i dont like mind of a maniac type things usually. you know like certain getto boys things, chuckie and stuff. dunno. not into it that much. top to bottom, if i remmber was quite sunny, like wiz khalifa if h was a murderous psycho.
maybe im getting it confused with something else.
 

Corpsey

bandz ahoy
Top to Bottom = Boosie's 'Juicy'.



Just noticed this new Wooh Da Kid tune



That ''you know what its gonna BEEE'' is infectious.

This one sounds a bit like 'Lift The Load' by Alley Boy - auto-tune trap music. I think that combination works, perhaps surprisingly, but when you think about how miserable/lugubrious some of those Lex/Southside beats sound...



Which reminded me that the video to 'Grove Street Party' came out recently:



more Brick Squad:



still haven't heard the new Gucci album...

 
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Corpsey

bandz ahoy
btw for some reason you can download all the tracks on 'Blackberry Kush' for free but get charged 1 dollar per track if you download them individually... I downloaded the Danny Brown featuring one the other day for a dollar and then got it on the mixtape for free. Still, worth supporting Green Ova IMO

btw 2 : http://www.datpiff.com/Wooh-Da-Kid-Strap-A-Holics-mixtape.201219.html = the mixtape those Wooh Da Kid tracks are taken from

I despair of keeping up with rap music honestly. :mad:
 

luka

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corpsey if you are there do you reckon i should spend the next 30mins or so invstigating young dro or fabolous new mixtapes? im leaning toward fab cos although it might not be as good it might suprise me in a way the other wont.
 

Corpsey

bandz ahoy
Equestrian Dro has the best cover by far.

Maybe we should set up a mixtape support network on here so we can cover all bases without going absolutely insane? :D

I'm going to have to force myself to listen to Covert Coup tomorrow PROPERLY. Maybe I'll do a blog review of it. This is one of the only ways I can guarantee that I'll listen to something properly without moving onto the latest download.

Glad to see you're into the new Main Attrakionz luka. I was listening to a bit of it today and I think its great - good sunny weather music, in a strange way.
 

luka

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do covert coup properly it really deservs it. dont write about it in too 'writerly' a way if you dont mind. can you write about it lik corspey please? it makes me feel weird when rap blogs try to write properly.
 

luka

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equestrian dro covere is deep. the fab is like the last fab thing i checkd out. inoffensive but ultimately a bit dull. i think im gonna give the song about drugs a chance thn if thats boring too im gonna switch to dro.
 

Corpsey

bandz ahoy
I agree with you... I'm trying to make what I write less like literature essays. Its hard when you're writing for an audience that doesn't necessarily know about rap music or take it seriously to not go into intellectual justification mode, I suppose.

It's funny though cos I almost see analysis of music as a way of focusing on it when I'm surrounded by distractions such as a computer screen full of links and forums, TV, the 'outside world' which I occasionally hear whispered stories about (apparently there are girls and stuff). Back in the halcyon days of CDs I could just listen to Illmatic again and again until I knew all the words...

Of course the problem is analysis gets in the way of things and muddies the waters...
 
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luka

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my feeling is that it is always a mistake to talk down to your audience. i think you should always be talking to equals. and talking in your own voice rather than using a format. like to illustrat look at group blog no jumper. often far too earnst in thir writing. george bush mony has more individuls. more flair and is better as a result. they suffer from the same thing tho. journalese. it just makes them look a bit dim, like when spivs use the word ascertain.
i dont mean dont analyse or be intellgent. those things are mandatory. i mean dont talk down and dont use a pre packaaged style/format/phrases/word combinations.
 
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luka

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like when you write something for a blog read it over and think does this sound like i am trying to suck up to the teacher. beacuse 99% of music blogs try to suck up to the teacher. that dosnt mean being dumb it means being smart but in a different way. thats just my feling
 

Corpsey

bandz ahoy
I like 'No Jumper' and 'George Bush Money'. Full disclosure: I'm actually meant to be writing a thing about suicide in rap music for No Jumper, have loads of interesting twitter conversations with Yayodancing (the guy who co-runs it) about rap music. I can see what you mean, but I do enjoy reading in-depth and analytic reviews sometimes - ironically I was actually going to suggest yayo's review of 'Covert Coup' to you cos I found it interesting and it made me reconsider my attitude towards Curren$y.

The thing is my natural voice is fairly analytical... but I definitely agree that it can become very stultified and over-formal sometimes. There is this thing with writing 'pieces' where you're trying to impress people with your writing as much as enlightening them (!) with your observations about the music... its quite an egotistical thing. Although I suppose what you're saying is that a sense of being humbled before writerly convention/expectation is a sure way to make your writing bland/toothless?

One of my favourite rap blogs = http://www.realniggatumblr.com/ and the guy Stevie who writes it writes COMPLETELY in his own voice, its unmistakable. And very funny, too.

Luka what do you make of this piece Noz did on Biggie for The Fader? http://www.thefader.com/2011/04/20/feature-stay-low-and-keep-firing/ Personally I think its great, but would be interested to know if you feel that he's falling into that trap of talking down to his audience?
 
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