if New York can die so can London

[catalog]

i saw dog star man the full 4 hour thing and kept falling asleep. i read an interview with one of his students, derek cianfrance, the guy who made 'the place beyond the pines', and he was saying how brakhage was really trying to change the language of cinema, using fuzziness and film scratching etc. like its about shape and composition etc.

some of the images from that film are still etched on my mind, all the water birth scenes that keep getting repeated and the scenes on the grass.

iain sincliar was very influenced by him and used to do loads of super 8 'diary films' in the 60s/70s, all around dalston and hackney. they showed them at the rio a while ago, they're really good just as documents really, and some good sound/music on them too.

if you enjoyed from hell, you might like this conversation alan moore had with dave sim (now cancelled). I'm sure i've posted the link before, it blew my head open when i first read it. it's like a continuation of the last chapter of from hell.

Correspondence From Hell: Introduction

An 'unofficial' blog celebrating the comics art of Dave Sim and Gerhard.

momentofcerebus.blogspot.com

 

[Leo]

Luton!

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/21/...on=click&module=Editors Picks&pgtype=Homepage

 

[woops]

judging by the mural i'm glad i don't live in luton 'cos if i did i'd have to find a way to sit an exam with no trousers on while all my teeth fall out

plus other reasons too presumably

 

[IdleRich]

"If you can dream it you must do it" - has gotta be the most irresponsible slogan I've ever heard. My dreams aren't even that bad but some of those things should definitely stay in the realm of the imagination... and how about for a Bundy or @Corpsey?

 

[IdleRich]

Ah snap.

 

[IdleRich]

in 2004, it was voted the worst place to live in Britain, according to an unscientific but much-publicized survey.

Reminds me of this thing I saw today



I guess every country has these places that are easy for wankers to take the piss out of. Hackney was always on those shit places lists but I loved it there.. I mean it's just bollocks.

 

[IdleRich]

I remember someone on dissensus (I think) saying "It's better to die on your feet than live in Neasden" which was at least witty.

 

[Leo]

was going to post that article in the luton thread but made more sense here, since it's about artists leaving London. get ready for them to spoil more places across the country!

 

[nilprenia]

 

[nilprenia]

Reminds me of this thing I saw today

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I guess every country has these places that are easy for wankers to take the piss out of. Hackney was always on those shit places lists but I loved it there.. I mean it's just bollocks.

Oklahoma is beautiful really

 

[Leo]

yeah, living in the middle of nowhere is much more appealing than being in some shitty small city.

 

[borzoi]

if you enjoyed from hell, you might like this conversation alan moore had with dave sim (now cancelled). I'm sure i've posted the link before, it blew my head open when i first read it. it's like a continuation of the last chapter of from hell.

Correspondence From Hell: Introduction

An 'unofficial' blog celebrating the comics art of Dave Sim and Gerhard.

momentofcerebus.blogspot.com

this was a great read

 

[catalog]

Oh I'm glad you liked it. Alot of Alan Moore interviews/conversations are really good, that one's probably the single best one, but there's another where he explains 'ideaspace' in a really good way, he says he sits down, closes his eyes, and imagines his head as a house with rooms, but then keeps pushing further, goes outside, what does the street look like, how's the weather, what's around that corner etc.

And also another where he talks about fugue states.

I've taken screenshots and made notes on them all years ago, but not revisited for a while.

Have you read his new big providence comic? It's got a bit of a from hell vibe to it, very tight story and keeps you interested, although has these weird very long prose sections at the end of each one, which keep getting longer. That's his problem really, some of the ideas/arcs get a little boring. If you decide to read it, there's one called the courtyard you need to read first, actually two, the others called neonimonicon, there's guidance online.

 

[luka]

I liked it. The Invisibles is a million times better than anything Moore did though.

 

[catalog]

Really? Morrison seems like a total idiot to me, literally copying Moore on everything. I did try with the invisible at one point but couldn't get past one or two issues. It feels too hyperbolic in style, very showy.

 

[luka]

He's a much sharper writer. Not plodding and pompous like Moore.

 

[luka]

Moore dresses like a wizard, what a nob. I do like him, despite myself, but he's a terrible writer. Really bad with words on a basic level.

 

[luka]

They are the only writers I know who write proper acid drenched books though. They're both good like that. Totally saturated in drugs. I don't know of any writer doing proper books you could say that for sadly.

 

[catalog]

Perhaps I'll give the invisibles a go at some point. I do know what you mean about Moore, theres vast swathes of his writing I can't get near to (lost girls, league of ext gents) and my mate said Jerusalem was embarrassing so I've not gone near it. I tried to reread from hell recently and stopped halfway cos it just felt a bit grubby and turgid.

I do love him thought, I think he's unique as a writer and thinker.

 

[luka]

Like I say I do like him despite myself. He needs to stop thinking he can write though. Just deliver the ideas, no messing around.