Film - breaking news, gossip, slander, lies etc

shakahislop

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There's an interview with him somewhere, where he says he was about to top himself and was on antidepressants, constantly ideating suicide, cos everything was going wrong for him. Then he was having to work on some shit film and made love is the message in 2 hours in the evening, and someone got it into a gallery, rest is what you've got. He's definitely a blagger but they all are to one extent or another.
i didn't know that. i don't think you can look for fairness or justice in the art world, the whole thing looks like a winner takes all kind of situation for artists, where who wins seems closer to a lottery than anything based on merit.

i did like love is the message. came across it at the new museum having never heard of him, just after BLM when the new museum unusually they did one show that filled the whole museum, on racial justice, and it was striking. that one lingers in the memory for the style and the point. actually moderately rare to find something in the art world where it's that easy to get the point. i saw another installation by him which was a CGI generated ocean, that was great as well. the one at the zwirner gallery at the moment was mostly photography rather than video but it felt amateur, he'd put up a sort of massive black enclosed box that you walked through full of photos, but it did nothing at all for me. it felt lazy i guess. running over old themes and not doing it particularly well. i guess the other thing is that there's been such an incredible amount of stuff about racial justice etc in galleries over the last few years that you get a bit bored of it, it hardly even registers. although that wave seems to be passing.
 

IdleRich

IdleRich
Not exactly breaking but definitely gossip. I read somewhere the other day that in No Country For Old Men they mixed up the contract and got Josh Brolin by mistake, they had wanted his father Jim. Now Josh was clearly too young to be a Vietnam vet but the deal was already inked - hence they had a quick think and decided to set the film in the 80s so that that was plausible.

Can that really be true? Sounds unlikely to me but it's a good story.
 

IdleRich

IdleRich
Kenneth Anger? It's great, sadly I've never read the second one, I've heard that much of it is of dubious provenance though so maybe it's less essential than the first which I reckon is not completely made up.
 

IdleRich

IdleRich
Yeah although he made up the one with the dog eating their mistress- or perhaps just repeating a myth which he probably knew to be untrue.

I think in the second he took full advantage of the fact that you can't libel the dead and gave his imagination free reign (or is it free rein? Either works).
 

IdleRich

IdleRich
Yeah certainly he was never able to make money from films, I think his only substantial income came from his books... and merch such as that one-sided moog jam record and those jackets bought by suckers such as I.
 

0bleak

Well-known member
confession time:
Although it's glaringly obvious (or at least should have been) because of the last name and similar features, for some reason it never entered my mind that Donald was Keifer's father.
Weird!
They even played a father and son in Forsaken (pretty sure I saw that?)!
I'll put it down to distinct voices and careers or something like that.
 

IdleRich

IdleRich
He also played Kate Bush's father Wilhelm Reich in the Cloudbusting video which was shot where I grew up.
I didn't write that very well, she was playing his son, she is not really the son of WR obviously.
 

catalog

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Did not realise he was kiefers dad. I watched "stand by me" by chance recently, what a good film.

Top Donald moments for me are

Animal house dope professor


And M. A. S. H with his whistle

 

WashYourHands

Cat Malogen
You might think that, I couldn’t possibly comment

Proceeds to comment.. Equally, you could always find a tame topless-only jazz mag in the woods, wedged in a tree root stump hole or in a hedgerow on the way in (why hedges exactly?)

Joan Collin lils out on a swing, Liz Fraser as an erotic stooge in Confessions, Cleo Rocos on early Kenny E shows, suspenders all over the Benny Hill girls ..

Harcore porn is a disease by comparison
 
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