why is ambient so popular now
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padraig (u.s.)
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I would go further, I think they're all on a single spectrum, with people like Joanna Brouk, Deuter, Ariel Kalma, etc somewhere in the middle. It depends what you count as new age.
personally I'm definitely into the freeform, improv, psychedelic side. stuff like Iasos, not so much
stuff like this
Yeah, arguably, thought the difference might be that the avant took eastern ideas about tonality and sonics and the new agers took their ideas about spirituality and musical function.
luka
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this is what i was saying. it's almost impossible to make 'bad' drone which devalues the whole project to some degree.
I dont think thats true. Ive heard plenty of bad drone. It just sometimes takes a while to figure out exactly how bad it is.
The thing about bad drone is, its flat - there's no textural depth, no envelopment, no overtones, no ganzfeld effect.
Bad drones actually become fairly apparent after a while because there is nothing extraneous to distract you from the drone. The purity makes it a very difficult thing to fake.
Bad drones actually become fairly apparent after a while because there is nothing extraneous to distract you from the drone. The purity makes it a very difficult thing to fake.
How was it? I hear he's been doing a new piece.
padraig (u.s.)
a monkey that will go ape
yes + no. it is harder to make "bad" drone than to make actively bad rock but it's also much, much harder to make drone that stands out.
I think this is true to some degree for all abstract art.
it's like looking at Kazimir Malevich or whatever + saying anyone could do that. well, yes. but no, they can't.
good and bad are kind of meaningless terms, true, but not in a non-falsifiable way
revision: rather than it's hard to make bad drone I think it would be better to say that listeners without a lot of experience have a much harder time distinguishing between higher and lower quality drone than they do with rock or disco or whatever. this is also why I never really understood the massive popularity of mnml outside of trendiness (+drugs. probably mainly drugs)
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padraig (u.s.)
a monkey that will go ape
that is interesting about the sonics of bad drone. this is why it helps to have a producer around.
it reinforces the point that drone is a quality, not a genre. or that drone the quality is different from drone the genre.
it reinforces the point that drone is a quality, not a genre. or that drone the quality is different from drone the genre.
Ahem, failed producer.
I hate to betray my inarticulacy, but to make a visual comparison; anyone can get out the acrylics and paint a dark red square on some cartridge paper, but that doesnt make you Rothko.
Do you really need much drone after discovering Eliane Radigue would be my question i guess.
luka
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