What? Are you confused? All the justifications of selfishness come under the auspices of self-care "you don't owe anyone anything mentality." Where in Peterson's ideas are a justification of selfishness? I don't know the guy's work well but AFAICT responsibility, obligation, and duty—traditional lower-case conservative values—are the bulk of his sermon. His is directly, consciously, deliberately a torque against a cultural narcissism as described by Lasch—not its defense.Occurred to me today that one of the attractions of Jordan, many others of his ilk, and some economic theories etc is that they provide a justification for selfishness. Which explains some of the queasy, uncomfortable feeling that I get around them. Coz a moral barrier against selfishness is pretty important.
What? Are you confused? All the justifications of selfishness come under the auspices of self-care "you don't owe anyone anything mentality." Where in Peterson's ideas are a justification of selfishness? I don't know the guy's work well but AFAICT responsibility, obligation, and duty—traditional lower-case conservative values—are the bulk of his sermon. His is directly, consciously, deliberately a torque against a cultural narcissism as described by Lasch—not its defense.
I took that as a conflation with individualism and his weird misunderstanding / phobia of collectivist culture ‘postmodern Marxism’ etc
I think the 'bangers in their canons' are so fundamentally different it collapses the whole analogy(1) They feed off the unmet psychological needs of their respective gender demographics
(2) They have some real bangers in their canon—there's a valid steelman in which they're important cultural figures who have produced important cultural work
(3) There's an enormous amount of cringe as well, especially w/r/t the behind-the-scenes personas—they are fundamentally silly and self-deluded people, and it is difficult to square their genuine wisdom against their persona
(4) Hyper fans can't shut up about them, and are usually delusional/worth disregarding
(5) Moderate, bracketed, considered appreciation is the correct stance toward them
He got to be a Harvard academic through this no-content, I take it?peterson is like if dunham never made Girls. Entirely a cultural figure with no real content whatsoever.
We have been waiting for years for some real critique now.
There are some good Peterson critiques out there
This just isn't remotely true, you clearly aren't familiar with his body of work, which is much more significant and larger than Dunham's (altho of course he has had many more decades to produce it). The meme JBP of the 2010s/20s is not the same JBP as the 80s/90s/00s theorist and lecturer, who wrote a lot and made non-trivial contributions to intellectual historypeterson is like if dunham never made Girls. Entirely a cultural figure with no real content whatsoever.
As a friend says, "The best argument for JBP's ideas are his Harvard lectures. The best argument against his ideas are his personal/family life."STILL all the knee-jerk responses about how he is a grifter or pointing out his cringe moments on twitter. Is that all the left can come up with? We have been waiting for years for some real critique now.