archetypal dyads

william_kent

william_kent

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sus said:
The writer and the dancer. The one who moves her body and the one who watches and transcribes a body's trace.
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If you were alive in the 1980s I can see you wearing one of these:

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This older bloke my brother used to work with is a big Madness fan, seen them like 50 times, and said one time Morrissey supported them and the crowd booed and threw shit at him until he walked off stage. Assume this was the gig:

Morrissey was supporting Madness for this event celebrating their reunion. There weren't many Morrissey fans at Finsbury Park because he was added to the bill only after the tickets were put up for sale. So the park was filled with Madness fans who didn't necessarily like Morrissey or were impatient to see the band they paid to see. After a few songs the heckling started and all kinds of items were thrown on stage, including coins, bottles, a carton of orange juice, etc. Is it debatable whether or not this heckling and pelting had anything to do with Morrissey, as opening band Gallon Drunk suffered the same treatment. The verbal abuse came from all sides, from anti-racists as well as from the racist faction of Madness fans. For both sides the skinheads backdrop and Morrissey wrapping himself in a Union Jack during "Glamorous Glue" seem to have made things worse. The mounting abuse forced Morrissey to walk out after only nine songs.
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0bleak

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ok, i was thinking that they were weird pairing musically - smiths v new order (totally different music from each other) after having madness v specials
but now i'm confused about something else because i also thought the smiths were the more confrontational and political of the two (that's my perspective being from the states)
 
sufi

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0bleak said:
ok, i was thinking that they were weird pairing musically - smiths v new order (totally different music from each other) after having madness v specials
but now i'm confused about something else because i also thought the smiths were the more confrontational and political of the two (that's my perspective being from the states)
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yeah but no,
smiths and new order are really similar and simultaneous early indie guitar mancs
 
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"Coleridge observes that all men are born Aristotelians or Platonists. The latter feel that classes, orders, and genres are realities; the former, that they are generalizations. For the latter, language is nothing but an approximative set of symbols; for the former, it is the map of the universe. The Platonist knows that the universe is somehow a cosmos, an order; that order, for the Aristotelian, can be an error or a fiction of our partial knowledge. Across the latitudes and the epochs, the two immortal antagonists change their name and language: one is Parmenides, Plato, Spinoza, Kant, Francis Bradley; the other, Heraclitus, Aristotle, Locke, Hume, William James."

 
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