In a bar in the east village which, the more I get to know it, I realize is less comprehensively gentrified than I thought. Specifically in a bar owned by a musician called Jesse Malin, who was part of that whole Strokes era thing I think. Starting to think that in a lot of ways the hipster thing was, like a lot of fashions, an American thing that got exported. Nothing more really. I guess it did have quite an influential sensibility attached to it, so it's more than just clothes and music, so it's more like punk or grunge as a phenomenon, rather than like glam rock or something.