luka

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Maybe too canny. People noticed what happened to Public Enemy. Do you remember that stuff about Tupac being extorted by a Jewish terrorist group? Can't remember if it was conspiracy theory or proven fact
 

luka

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I'm sure you can find much more lurid accounts of what went on than that very brief article provides
 

version

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Jay-Z had an antisemitic lyric in The Story of O.J.

"You wanna know what's more important than throwin' away money at a strip club?
Credit
You ever wonder why Jewish people own all the property in America?
This how they did it"


 

luka

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Padraig always links to that James Baldwin essay about the roots of black suspicion of Jews. He really likes that piece.
 

Mr. Tea

Let's Talk About Ceps
The issue is on what basis were the Nazis opposed by the various players. Given that Churchill was a racist and didn't seem particularly bothered initially about the treatment of Jews in Germany it is entirely plausible that the British state's entry into the war was down to German expansionism rather than committed anti-fascism per se. It's quite clear that a number of English poshoes thought Hitler was fine initially - you only have to look at the Mitford family, Oswald Moseley etc.

If the British state is so unambiguously anti-fascist why did it do fuck all when Franco rose to power in Spain?

Yeah, Hitler had a pretty good go at invading Britain. I'm aware Churchill wasn't this great lovable progressive who just couldn't bear to see Jews and other minorities being brutalised in Europe. I know a lot of toffs here were pro-Nazi too. This is extremely basic stuff that everyone knows.

My point was that the idea that Churchill "didn't give a fuck about Hitler", when he literally went into an alliance with Stalin in order to defeat him and mobilised the entire resources of the British empire to wage total war against him, is garbage.

OTOH, Stalin and Hitler were pretty chummy until 1941.
 
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Mr. Tea

Let's Talk About Ceps
churchill to mussolini:

“If I had been an Italian I am sure that I should have been whole-heartedly with you from the start to finish in your triumphant struggle against the bestial appetites and passions of Leninism."

What? You mentioned Hitler, not Mussolini.
 

version

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On the subject of the Chief Rabbi's intervention. Apparently he is actually a friend of Johnson, or has at least referred to them as being friends.
 

luka

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I thought the Jews were advancing cultural Marxism to weaken the west and the white man but now they're the only thing standing between us and a socialist utopia it's mad!
 

luka

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Just when you think you've worked them out they pull the rug out from under your feet!
 

Corpsey

bandz ahoy
Well, having the Tories in charge for another four years WILL weaken the west.

Besides, it's CULTURAL Marxism they're after, not economic.

Please take notes during my next lecture.
 

Corpsey

bandz ahoy
I really wish this thread wasn't named what it is, it's terrible optics if someone spots me on the tube or at work
 

version

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British Muslims Are Getting WhatsApps Urging Them To Vote Out 14 "Pro-Israel" Tory MPs

British Muslims are being targeted with WhatsApp messages from a group urging them to vote out 14 Conservative candidates they accuse of “supporting Israel”.

The messages also allege that the Tories — who are each fighting to hold onto marginal seats with significant numbers of Muslim voters — are “Islamophobes” and “supporting Modi’s assault on Kashmir”, although no evidence is provided for these assertions. Home secretary Priti Patel condemned the WhatsApp campaign, telling BuzzFeed News it was “shocking and divisive”.

The messages are part of the Muslim Public Affairs Committee's "Operation Muslim Vote", which is encouraging Muslims to vote for the Labour Party. MPAC has previously been criticised for its record on anti-Semitism. A crowdfunder page for the campaign on the FundAmal website says: “Allah loves those who fight in His cause in a row as though they are a single structure joined firmly.”

The campaign is the latest controversial attempt to use WhatsApp to target religious groups during the election. Earlier this month, it was reported that Hindu voters had received WhatsApps encouraging them to vote against Labour, claiming that the party was “anti-India”, “anti-Hindu” and "anti-Modi". The messages were widely condemned for seeking to inflame tensions between Hindus and Muslims ahead of the election.

MPAC’s effort to target Muslim voters uses comparable tactics, but instead urges Muslims to vote against 14 Tory MPs. One of the messages seen by BuzzFeed News said: “This is the Muslims’ opportunity to kick Islamophobes out of power!

“We intend to mobilise the Muslim communities and punish the Tory party for their blatant Islamophobia.

“We have targeted 14 Tory marginal seats who have MPs that have a record of enabling Islamophobia, supporting Israel and/or supporting Modi’s assault on Kashmir.

In ALL of those seats, Muslims can vote them out of power and hit the Tories HARD!”

https://www.buzzfeed.com/alexwickha...urging-them-to-vote?__twitter_impression=true
 
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