wektor

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I kinda fell off after 10 mins or so stilll, some thoughts here in my vent copied from discord:
okay got curious and listened through like 15s of the intro and it hit so hard that I might listen all the way in this very moment
okay lost my patience after 10 minutes, turns out americans don't know how to a) build up anything that's not a literal build up/drop structure b) use reverb and delay as anything but icing sugar
I'd be curious to think when did this thing happen of track build up and drop being like almost completely unrelated, it's like the hardcore piano sample jumping on something, except usually it's french house synths, since like 2008 this has been the case
I would blame french house maybe? or the so called electro-house (not benny benassi but all the bedroom producer kind that arrived later)
skipping through, that's why the track with boys noize stands out - it has some sort of progression that's does not sound like a random blend of two completely unrelated tracks (maybe because of being a bit more minimal as well (oh nvm that fucking chordy moment actually does happen at some point there too)
people from the US be like: nooooo you have to add new shit to the arrangement every 16 bars that's what progression is everyone will get bored otherwise
it's not even about riser builds/drops at this points, it's something else
tldr it feels to me americans dont know how to do structure: it can be a good thing if there is just no structure anymore and just one block all the way through the track (see house music) fading in and out
I just cannot get over these chordy riser buildups completely unrelated to the mood of the track

btw this is why skrillex attempts at more melodic or even rnb stuff were best: the melody was a more inherent part of the arrangement rather than being something chucked on top (and don't get me wrong, he's decent with pretty ornamental melody writing imo!)
 

qwerty south

no use for a witticism
it was through listening to skrillex's early "dubstep" efforts that I understood what truly "abstracted" music was.
 
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