Wuhan Killer Sneeze (thanks Tea)

[mixed_biscuits]

I don't think any of the major covid vaccines are based on completely new technology.

mRNA vax are new

 

[WashYourHands]

15 pages

tick, tick, boom

 

[Mr. Tea]

mRNA vax are new

Not that new: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MRNA_vaccine

 

[luka]

looks pretty fucking new to me!

 

[Mr. Tea]

Not invented specifically for covid vaccines, is what I meant.

Medicine evolves rapidly, which is a good thing, isn't it?

 

[mixed_biscuits]

Not invented specifically for covid vaccines, is what I meant.

Medicine evolves rapidly, which is a good thing, isn't it?

You're in a bind: if it's new, it's new; if it's not, why not rolled out thus far?

 

[WashYourHands]

Preparation of closing summaries

Anything else is flirting

 

[Mr. Tea]

You're in a bind: if it's new, it's new; if it's not, why not rolled out thus far?

Huh?

 

[luka]

Huh?

hes saying either it is new
or, if it isn't new
why has it never been used for a vaccine programe beofre? whats wrong with it?

 

[HMGovt’s Glorious Return!]

Pfizer failed to report that more people died from all causes in the vaccine group, 24% more, by the cut off date for analysis last March, and many more for cardiac conditions. Then they gave the clotshot to controls, confounding any long term comparison.

More people died in the key clinical trial for Pfizer's Covid vaccine than the company publicly reported

Pfizer told the world 15 people who received the vaccine in its trial had died as of mid-March. Turns out the real number then was 21, compared to only 17 deaths in people who hadn't been vaccinated.

alexberenson.substack.com

 

[HMGovt’s Glorious Return!]

BMJ Investigation a couple of weeks ago

Covid-19: Researcher blows the whistle on data integrity issues in Pfizer’s vaccine trial​

Covid-19: Researcher blows the whistle on data integrity issues in Pfizer’s vaccine trial

Revelations of poor practices at a contract research company helping to carry out Pfizer’s pivotal covid-19 vaccine trial raise questions about data integrity and regulatory oversight. Paul D Thacker reports In autumn 2020 Pfizer’s chairman and chief executive, Albert Bourla, released an open...

www.bmj.com

 

[Mr. Tea]

hes saying either it is new
or, if it isn't new
why has it never been used for a vaccine programe beofre? whats wrong with it?

Development
The first human clinical trial using ex vivo dendritic cells transfected with mRNA encoding tumor antigens (therapeutic cancer mRNA vaccine) was started in 2001.[27][28] Four years later, the successful use of modified nucleosides as a method to transport mRNA inside cells without setting off the body's defense system was reported.[27][29] Clinical trial results of an mRNA vaccine directly injected into the body against cancer cells were reported in 2008.[30][31]

BioNTech in 2008 and Moderna in 2010 were founded to develop mRNA biotechnologies.[32][33] The US research agency DARPA launched at this time the biotechnology research program ADEPT to develop emerging technologies for the US military.[34][35] The agency recognized the potential of nucleic acid technology for defense against pandemics and began to invest in the field.[34] DARPA grants were seen as a vote of confidence that in turn encouraged other government agencies and private investors to invest in mRNA technology.[35] DARPA awarded at the time a $25 million grant to Moderna.[36]

The first human clinical trials using an mRNA vaccine against an infectious agent (rabies) began in 2013.[37][38] Over the next few years, clinical trials of mRNA vaccines for a number of other viruses were started. mRNA vaccines for human use have been studied for infectious agents such as influenza, Zika virus, cytomegalovirus, and Chikungunya virus.[39][40]

 

[Mr. Tea]

 

[HMGovt’s Glorious Return!]

Austria and Saxony, eh? Zu ihrer sicherheit!

 

[HMGovt’s Glorious Return!]

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And how many of those made it to clinical use after the trials. None.
And how many products of any kind did moderna sell before their clotshot? Also none.

You want to believe so much.

 

[Mr. Tea]

And how many of those made it to clinical use after the trials. None.
And how many products of any kind did moderna sell before their clotshot? Also none.

You want to believe so much.

Strawman much? All I said was that the technology was not brand new, which it clearly is not. Learn to read.

 

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Anyone seen this stuff about the FDA asking for 55 years to fully release Pfizer's vaccine data? Is it true and is that usual?

 

[Mr. Tea]

You want to believe so much.

Speaking of wanting to believe, how long have I got before my mitochondria tie themselves up like pretzels and I start growing that second head, doc? Had my first jab back in May, I think.

 

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Scientists mystified, wary, as Africa avoids COVID disaster

HARARE, Zimbabwe (AP) — At a busy market in a poor township outside Harare this week, Nyasha Ndou kept his mask in his pocket, as hundreds of other people, mostly unmasked, jostled to buy and sell fruit and vegetables displayed on wooden tables and plastic sheets.

apnews.com

But there is something “mysterious” going on in Africa that is puzzling scientists, said Wafaa El-Sadr, chair of global health at Columbia University. “Africa doesn’t have the vaccines and the resources to fight COVID-19 that they have in Europe and the U.S., but somehow they seem to be doing better,” she said.

Fewer than 6% of people in Africa are vaccinated. For months, the WHO has described Africa as “one of the least affected regions in the world” in its weekly pandemic reports.

 

[WashYourHands]

Mysterious is juicy isn’t it, not pejorative, floats past, like fishing for mackerel with feathers