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IdleRich

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No-one seems to be totally clear on what the National Emergency thing means. I don't think it's half as draconian as France or whatever... you can probably just tell the police you're shopping and be on your way.
 
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baboon2004

Darned cockwombles.
Is anyone else in the UK staggered by how piecemeal and non-committal every government measure is?

Closing down a few tube stations and lines?
Maybe locking down London "at the weekend"? Rest of the country - who the fuck knows?
Keeping schools open until Friday, because hey, it's not like (*tested*) infections are rising by 30% per day?

Further cheery news showing the utter inadequacy and sheer arrogance of public health responses to Coronavirus and its effects: younger people (30-50) with a 'blank' medical history are getting the virus very badly:
https://news.sky.com/story/coronavi...-increase-as-young-people-become-ill-11959978
 
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baboon2004

Darned cockwombles.
IdleRich said:
No-one seems to be totally clear on what the National Emergency thing means. I don't think it's half as draconian as France or whatever... you can probably just tell the police you're shopping and be on your way.
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Well, and French police have that certain reputation, well earned too. Presume it's not the same for the Portuguese?
 
padraig (u.s.)

padraig (u.s.)

a monkey that will go ape
Chicago update: Oak Park, a suburb adjacent to the city that is about 3 miles directly west of where I live, was ordered into shelter in place lockdown last night

there's a strong rumor going around state + city workers that all of Illinois will be ordered into lockdown beginning Saturday

strangely enough, it seems as if my job will be classed as essential so I guess we'll keep working. the $ has gotten significantly worse but it's something.

23 states including Illinois have already activated the National Guard, tho all for nominally humanitarian purposes, no martial law...yet
 
padraig (u.s.)

padraig (u.s.)

a monkey that will go ape
more broadly, I've heard from a couple doctor friends that they expect lockdown in most/all of the U.S. to go until the middle of June

I couldn't explain all the underlying math, obviously, but:

that's based on current models of often it doubles and how many people it's likely to infect, giving about an 11-week curve

that would see about a quarter of the population infected, or ~80m people, with 1m+ dead

however: I'm not sure to what degree that takes into account quarantine measures

also: no epidemiologist knows right now - b/c there's not enough data - what geographical distribution will be like

so direct impacts may continue in a rolling wave - would not be surprised to see this happen in Italy, for example - until there's a widely distributed vaccine

plus resurgences once restrictions are lifted, of course
 
padraig (u.s.)

padraig (u.s.)

a monkey that will go ape
the federal government's current plan assumes an 18 month pandemic with multiple waves and critical shortages in medical infrastructure

incidentally, despite his abysmal, (should be) criminally negligent response, hard to see how this won't ultimately boost the chances of Trump reelection

or at least, not harm them

let's face it: this is basically a war. the government is certainly shifting to a war footing. and wars are good for incumbents.
 
Leo

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trump's handlers already have his minions at Fox News and elsewhere referring to him as a "wartime president", that's the branding he'll use to win reelection.
 
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