corpsey's Nietzschean pop songs top 10

[shiels]

Here’s a strategy for quicker, more productive writing: dissociate roles, splitting the self into writer and editor. Generate, then curate. Or in alkjash's frame, babble, then prune. “Use a weak and local filter to randomly generate a lot of possibilities... [Then] Use a strong and global filter to test for the best, or at least a satisfactory, choice. With this word in the blank, do I actually believe this sentence? Does the word have the right connotations?”

and another role the reader... who doesn’t have time, probably doesn’t give a fuck really. You have to think about them to, how did they respond

 

[woops]

and another role the reader... who doesn’t have time, probably doesn’t give a fuck really. You have to think about them to, how did they respond

Write with the reader in my mind is what you get taught at university, in fact write for yourself, what you would like to read but can't cos no one has wrote it

 

[luka]

writing for someone who doesnt give a fuck makes zero sense.

 

[luka]

shes just not that into you bro

 

[woops]

Write with the reader in my mind is what you get taught at university

That's why arts and humanities academic texts say everything 3 times in the most boring terms possible

 

[shiels]

Its the whole point of copywriting! The only writing that matters now!

 

[luka]

what is copywriting exactly? the text in an advertisment?

 

[shiels]

And consideration of an uninterested subject can improve art, make it leaner, to the point, seductive etc. Ideas need selling

 

[luka]

no they dont fuck that capitalist realist satanism

 

[woops]

What's mental to me is how what's judged effective copywriting is the opposite of enjoyable reading

We all love the familiar same old same old.

But you're different. And we're the same.

Different. A way for you forward. Not just the same.

 

[luka]

proper 666 devil worship

 

[shiels]

what is copywriting exactly? the text in an advertisment?

Yeah, writing that gets people to do stuff

 

[shiels]

All the best artists are copywriters. De lillo, Ballard, Hitchcock. Know how to sell ideas

 

[luka]

dont talk devil worship you invite the devil to enter your heart if you speak like that

 

[sus]

Mmmm I think probably most bad art is from no one to no one

 

[sus]

"Writing the thing you'd like to read" seems reasonable, especially in plugging unfilled niches (if you want it and can't find it, good chance it doesn't exist). But that seems more like erecting yourself as a model interlocutor/stand-in for whoever will eventually read

 

[thirdform]

jesus this thread is grim now. proper victorian parlour shite.

 

[luka]

third, for those who dont know, is allergic to the word 'art'.

 

[sus]

Yes as discussed elsewhere bad psychedelic art is when acceptance goes too far, not enough cringe, not enough recoiling, not enough bullying, not enough negative feedback.

 

[sus]

Manners would oblige that those who are uninterested show themselves out