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In terms of creative contemplation of culture(s), of cultivative spaces, what can grow/arise from a posthumanist petri dish? I don't think I mean transhumanist.

One of the things I'm interested in exploring is an experimental handling of emotion. I'm no Trekkie (yet), but what I'm describing could, perhaps, be likened tonally/ontologically to some kind of Vulcan being. Don't want to dig too deep there - just wanted to acknowledge the similarity off the bat. The waking zen of the machine.

The kind of subject-qua-processor theory is the stuff I'm gearing around, but I do wonder if there is any poetic, or aesthetic potential to it. Or is all of that sacrificed, or at least diminished, as we relegate pathos to the second-string?

I don't believe so. I think if art has persisted this far, then it has a function, and that function does not necessarily seem to be obsolete - even if we, as subjects, were to transition from individual to dividual, from humans-as-people to processors-as-humans-as-people. More acutely incarnating cosmic organization. The accumulatio of the information age (forgive me).

What about the aesthetics of complexity? The Mandelbrot set? Mathematics as autotelic, as the pinnacle of beauty, of aesthetics? Perfection?

What art can we produce when we are no longer the vanguard/torchbearers of intelligent matter?
 

RWY

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He's a good lad, definitely not the home counties posh boy he's sometimes made out to be on here - it's ludicrous you two haven't gone for a pint yet
 

luka

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He's a good lad, definitely not the home counties posh boy he's sometimes made out to be on here - it's ludicrous you two haven't gone for a pint yet

i know. also the home counties posh boy thing comes from him. hes one of the least posh people here. i dont know why he lumbered himself wiith that.
 

entertainment

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In terms of creative contemplation of culture(s), of cultivative spaces, what can grow/arise from a posthumanist petri dish? I don't think I mean transhumanist.

One of the things I'm interested in exploring is an experimental handling of emotion. I'm no Trekkie (yet), but what I'm describing could, perhaps, be likened tonally/ontologically to some kind of Vulcan being. Don't want to dig too deep there - just wanted to acknowledge the similarity off the bat. The waking zen of the machine.

The kind of subject-qua-processor theory is the stuff I'm gearing around, but I do wonder if there is any poetic, or aesthetic potential to it. Or is all of that sacrificed, or at least diminished, as we relegate pathos to the second-string?

I don't believe so. I think if art has persisted this far, then it has a function, and that function does not necessarily seem to be obsolete - even if we, as subjects, were to transition from individual to dividual, from humans-as-people to processors-as-humans-as-people. More acutely incarnating cosmic organization. The accumulatio of the information age (forgive me).

What about the aesthetics of complexity? The Mandelbrot set? Mathematics as autotelic, as the pinnacle of beauty, of aesthetics? Perfection?

What art can we produce when we are no longer the vanguard/torchbearers of intelligent matter?

there are like a million facets to this asking this. it's hard to get at.

one thing we've touched upon many times is the frustration of realizing that there is no such thing as authentic pathos. pop basically lives in that zone. it's driven by this acknowledgement of inauthenticity. so maybe as we move towards this post-human condition, art in general will tend toward the same dynamics as pop has for a long time.

i've had a few drinks as well now
 
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