Where is the avant-garde?

[luka]

it’s because I want to be Jesus that I can say these things!

this is one of the big quandries in a way. do you stay true to the primary pull, the libidinal engine of wanting to be Jesus or do you 'critique it' and 'probelmatise it' like a university student?

 

[mvuent]

Thats the new gothic

what do you mean?

 

[pattycakes_]

Lol @ 'we need to have a serious conversation about...'

 

[version]

This should be hung in a gallery.

 

[linebaugh]

what do you mean?

invokes that horrifying, indescribable sublime at the decay of what was thought to be luxury, it's just not castles anymore

 

[version]

Thats the new gothic

invokes that horrifying, indescribable sublime at the decay of what was thought to be luxury, it's just not castles anymore

 

[linebaugh]

what do you mean?

Also suggests a kind of punishment, the world striking back at our technological innovations- Pynchon talks about that in his luddite essay

 

[shiels]

I like these. Why do you like the feeling? I usually enjoy slight out of place and out of timeness. It can’t be deliberate though, in fact it’s probably the lack of any aesthetic sensibility that’s comforting, and also kind of bleak

 

[luka]

it's also about the specific realm of affect conjured up by computer games and the spaces they create

 

[linebaugh]

I like these. Why do you like the feeling? I usually enjoy slight out of place and out of timeness. It can’t be deliberate though, in fact it’s probably the lack of any aesthetic sensibility that’s comforting, and also kind of bleak

Andrew Wyeth captures this fedling really well in a few of his paintings (Im on mobile give me a sec with the links)

 

[shiels]

I don’t find it horrifying. It’s a sweet release from things that are too sure of themselves, too imposing, trying too hard etc

 

[linebaugh]

I like these. Why do you like the feeling? I usually enjoy slight out of place and out of timeness. It can’t be deliberate though, in fact it’s probably the lack of any aesthetic sensibility that’s comforting, and also kind of bleak

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Check this one out. I get a very similar feeling

 

[luka]

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Check this one out. I get a very similar feeling

to a degree but these are very painterly and i think the other images draw a lot of theior power from the connection with exploring space within a computer game.

 

[version]

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[luka]

i would say the painterly aspect renders those as kitsch

 

[linebaugh]

to a degree but these are very painterly and i think the other images draw a lot of theior power from the connection with exploring space within a computer game.

Yah there is a mystique to the digital space. Think this could tie back into a relation (similarity?) to the virtual and sublime

 

[version]

There's something really odd about that painting. It looks like it's upside down or something.

 

[luka]

Yah there is a mystique to the digital space. Think this could tie back into a relation (similarity?) to the virtual and sublime

not sure. can you explain a bit more what you have in mind?

 

[linebaugh]

There's something really odd about that painting. It looks like it's upside down or something.

The candles are blowing, but theres no source of wind and the shadows dont follow any discernable logic

 

[version]

The candles are blowing, but theres no source of wind and the shadows dont follow any discernable logic

A similar quality to this shot from Night of the Hunter,