Election 2020

[Leo]

So, the reason Kari Lake lost her attempts to overturn the election is cos the court was corrupt. And the reason there were no charges in the Durham report is cos he knew that he couldn't win. This is a good one cos although he concluded that no charges could be brought, commentators are spinning it to say that he concluded lots of people were guilty, and combined with this it means, say, while he actually said that there was no crime Obama could be charged with, MAGA are taking it as he concluded Obama was guilty and should be charged but he decided not to because the courts would let him off.

in a broader sense, this is why the GOP has lost winnable elections, and support from their traditional core of moderate suburban voters. the far right has crawled so far up their own butts that they talk in normal tones about things that are ridiculous nonsense to anyone who doesn't drink the kool-aid.

 

[IdleRich]

It feels that this moves so far from reality it stops being any kind of opposition. People insisting that the government is illegitimate and that Lake is the real governor etc it crosses a line from being protest to living in a fantasy world. However much they insist Biden isn't president, he is in the white house giving orders and pretending otherwise won't change it.

I suppose what I'm saying is that there are people who protest, campaign etc and can challenge a government, maybe make them think twice etc and you would assume that people of the same persuasion but more radical, might pose even more challenges, but, except for freak occurrences such as Jan 6th, that's not the case cos they kinda veer away from reality into ineffectualness.

 

[Leo]

maybe it's due to social media. it's so easy for people to become nutters, wallowing in their own hermetically sealed conspiracy theory reenforcement loops. it's easy to become keyboard warriors in an us-against-them struggle that most of the outside world doesn't even know exists.

 

[Mr. Tea]

maybe it's due to social media. it's so easy for people to become nutters, wallowing in their own hermetically sealed conspiracy theory reenforcement loops. it's easy to become keyboard warriors in an us-against-them struggle that most of the outside world doesn't even know exists.

Thank heavens that's never happened to any of us, eh?

 

[IdleRich]

maybe it's due to social media. it's so easy for people to become nutters, wallowing in their own hermetically sealed conspiracy theory reenforcement loops. it's easy to become keyboard warriors in an us-against-them struggle that most of the outside world doesn't even know exists.

It's funny how with any question about almost any social phenomena, it's possible to lazily and thoughtlessly say "social media is probably a factor" - and be right.

Leo, you want unnecessarily far by actually explaining your argument and showing that you had thought about it, but really it's been so pervasive and dominant that it really is involved in everything we do and every change of human behavior...

History of humanity goes something like...

Hunter-gatherers then farmers etc then a load of stuff that's not really that important and then we become insta-twitterers

 

[Leo]

I blame social media when our cat spits up a hairball.

 

[IdleRich]

A third Oathkeeper called Jess Watkins had been sentenced too - 8.5 years

 

[IdleRich]

Speaking of Rhodes the one-eyed Oathkeeper who got 18 years, just found out why that description fits him...

In case you had never heard how Oath Keepers leader Elmer Stewart Rhodes lost his eye, here it is: he dropped a loaded .22 caliber pistol, and it discharged and hit him in the eye. Dumb ass.

 

[Leo]

Elmer.

 

[Mr. Tea]

Speaking of Rhodes the one-eyed Oathkeeper who got 18 years, just found out why that description fits him...

Didn't one of the lawyers representing the 6 Jan insurrectionists say "You have to understand that these people are basically retarded"?

Edit: more or less

“They’re All Fucking Short-Bus People”: Capitol Riot Attorney Manages to Insult At Least Three Different Groups While Defending 1/6 Actions

The lawyer for the QAnon shaman told Talking Points Memo “These defendants…they’re all fucking short-bus people. These are people with brain damage, they’re fucking retarded, they’re on the goddamn spectrum.”

www.vanityfair.com

“A lot of these defendants—and I’m going to use this colloquial term, perhaps disrespectfully—but they’re all fucking short-bus people. These are people with brain damage, they’re fucking retarded, they’re on the goddamn spectrum.”