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Somebody somewhere has a reason for claiming the president is illegitimate.... some reasons are better than other... I don't really get the point that quote is making.
It's not "somebody somewhere" though, is it? Those were all big stories with prominent players.
 

Leo

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I'm telling you, a HUGE factor in this is the Georgia Senate runs off in January. the GOP desperately needs the base to remain engaged and vote, so it's highly unlikely McConnell or any of the others (since they all follow Mitch) will take any position viewed as in opposition to Trump. if there was no run off to determine who controls the senate, the GOP (aside from the nutbags) would have all congratulated biden on his win by now and moved on from Donnie.
 

Murphy

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I'm telling you, a HUGE factor in this is the Georgia Senate runs off in January. the GOP desperately needs the base to remain engaged and vote, so it's highly unlikely McConnell or any of the others (since they all follow Mitch) will take any position viewed as in opposition to Trump. if there was no run off to determine who controls the senate, the GOP (aside from the nutbags) would have all congratulated biden on his win by now and moved on from Donnie.

 

catalog

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I think it would've been a trump landslide had it not been for covid. His effective murder of so many people is what has done him.
 

Mr. Tea

Let's Talk About Ceps
I think it would've been a trump landslide had it not been for covid. His effective murder of so many people is what has done him.
I think the fact it primarily affects the over-60s is a huge part of this. There's basically been a boomercide.
 

catalog

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that meme that's been going round - more dead in america from covid than ww2 - is the nail in his coffin. unforgiveable.
 

sufi

lala
keep in mind he hasn't tried to tangle with the active military high command yet

the President can as C-in-C fire (I believe) any general officer from an appointed position i.e. the Joint Chiefs of staff

but it would surely raise a massive uproar from a variety of quarters, so whether he could get away with it is another matter

Matt Milley - the current CJCS - has been very explicit, both over the summer after Trump's threats to use the military on protestors, and a couple weeks ago before Congress, that the military isn't going to get involved in domestic politics, including the election
well yes, it's too early to mount a coup as he is still president, i said is this a "coup attempt" - at this stage in the proceedings the Trump cult is just trying to get rid of possible obstacles. The military don't need to be involved domestically, they can create an overseas crisis to help justify taking over

(as someone said n twitter, it's not a coup d'etat if it's not from France, it' just a sparkiling authoritarian takeover)

seems like the best hope for trump to achieve that is people saying how it won't/can't happen
 

sufi

lala
he's like a kid so if he's kicked out he's gonna fuck everything up as much as he can to fuck with biden, just for the sake of it, like a temper tantrum
if the interests in big arms deals and starting foreign wars converge into a big drama that he can exploit over the coming months to take over, then why not
 

Leo

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thanks. that's an opinion article by a contributor, not their editors or reporters, but still.

also, his reasoning is laughable: well, you know, it's awkward for a losing president to greet the opponent who beat him in the election. and since trump is such a child, the best move is to spare Trump the discomfort and let Pence do it instead. LOL! The most important element here is Trump's feelings, not the fact that Biden won the electoral college!
 
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IdleRich

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thanks. that's an opinion article by a contributor, not their editors or reporters, but still.
also, his reasoning is laughable: well, you know, it's awkward for a losing president to greet the opponent who beat him in the election. and since trump is such a child, the best move is to spare Trump the discomfort and let Pence do it instead. LOL! The most important element here is Trump's feeling, not the fact that Biden won the electoral college!
But the article that I read that linked to the article claimed that it was specifically authorised by the owner who is a mate of Trump.
 

IdleRich

IdleRich
It's not "somebody somewhere" though, is it? Those were all big stories with prominent players.
But what I mean is, the fact that some people think that Obama was illegitimate is not something I want to give any weight to. It's not the same as a president being impeached or whatever. It's crazy, regardless of how many people think it, or pretend to think it.
 
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sufi

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thanks. that's an opinion article by a contributor, not their editors or reporters, but still.

also, his reasoning is laughable: well, you know, it's awkward for a losing president to greet the opponent who beat him in the election. and since trump is such a child, the best move is to spare Trump the discomfort and let Pence do it instead. LOL! The most important element here is Trump's feelings, not the fact that Biden won the electoral college!
This indulgent nonsense is realy dangerous, "o yeh it's just trump being trump, don't worry if he sacks all the generals who oppose him, he's so touchy, or if he sells the top US bomber plane to the UAE who will give it to china and russia, he's such a klutz, never mind if he would love to nuke iran, he's such a scamp"
 
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IdleRich

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Yeah and all these lefties going "Biden is more of the same" - the last four years have demonstrated quite clearly that that's not true.
 

Leo

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I so wish the Georgia senate seats were decided. trump's behavior for the next two months will drag us (further) down in so many ways.
 
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john eden

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Going back a couple of pages, I used to know Robert Bui of the Luther Blissetts / Wu-Ming lot reasonably well. They have spoken about Qanon in this Buzzfeed interview:
 

john eden

male pale and stale
Yeah and all these lefties going "Biden is more of the same" - the last four years have demonstrated quite clearly that that's not true.

Biden will be better at grammar and politeness and killing people in the middle east and possibly challenging climate change. So it depends what your priorities are but there are similarities and differences of course.
 
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