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Clinamenic

Clinamenic

The Wild Drunkard
Grand Budapest is also a triple frame story, which in this case I think does succeed in putting enough distance between the viewer and the main story, so as to grant the story the kind of legend status it’s supposed to have within the world of the film.
 
Clinamenic

Clinamenic

The Wild Drunkard
Actually now that I think about it, that’s actually a valid use case for the frame story device, whereas that device doesn’t always have much justification beyond the filmmaker just thinking that it’s cool.
 
Leo

Leo

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shakahislop said:
one thing about the BCM (as defined by suspended) is that they don't seem very interested in music at all. they're way more interested in what's going on on the internet and socials than they are in tunes.
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yeah, seems mostly about literature, substacks, essays on some hipster site, social media, dinner parties. also, many of them don't live or hang in Brooklyn.
 
IdleRich

IdleRich

IdleRich
Clinamenic said:
But I can see also how hollow a lot of the characters seem, when the priority really just seems like an orchestrated tapestry of quirk.

In a way similar to Tarantino in that, a lot of the time, the characters seem to function primarily to effectuate witty rapports, rather than to actually incarnate some meaningful development of personality. I think there are some great characters in Anderson's films and Tarantino films, but not really in the sense of being especially moving performances.
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This is nothing to do with what rubs me up the wrong way about his films.
 
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shakahislop

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watched downtown 81 tonight. pretty charming film, it's just nice that someone bothered to make something which is so vibes-based. feels like a good counterpart to meet me in the bathroom. same geography and arguably the same continuum of us alternative(ish) culture. but the 80s lower east side that's presented in this (fictional) film is much more appealing than the 00s documentary one. there's loads of outdoors shots which is great for me.

there's someone really nice and surprising about watching basquiat wander around, i had no idea a film like this existed, never got into his stuff and the culture around it is a bit offputting.
 
IdleRich

IdleRich

IdleRich
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Grand Budapest feels like some sort of Rube Goldberg machine or elaborate cuckoo clock.
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First of his I saw voluntarily, I was interested in the aesthetic - of that kind of Grand Hotel I mean, rather than Anderson's, though I suppose part of me wanted to see what he did with it.
 
IdleRich

IdleRich

IdleRich
Speaking of Life Aquatic, does anyone know the tune in this scene? I see loads of people asking in the comments, looks like it's not on the soundtrack release. It sounds almost exactly like Superbike by The Fat Truckers but I don't think that's what it is





 
Leo

Leo

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shakahislop said:
is that one of the piers on the west side? i can't work it out. it looks like the FDR behind them, but i don't think there were any piers on the east side so that's confusing. or maybe it's right down near battery park on the west side, i think there's an elevated expressway like that there
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it is confusing, because some angles show the Empire State Building across the river, which would mean it's filmed on piers in Queens or Brooklyn. Could be Long Island City. or maybe filmed in multiple locations, because a few shots definitely look like they are from West Side Manhattan piers, with Jersey City and Hoboken across the river in the background.
 
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shakahislop

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Leo said:
it is confusing, because some angles show the Empire State Building across the river, which would mean it's filmed on piers in Queens or Brooklyn. Could be Long Island City. or maybe filmed in multiple locations, because a few shots definitely look like they are from West Side Manhattan piers, with Jersey City and Hoboken across the river in the background.
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were there piers in queens and brooklyn then? there aren't any now except the ones for the ferries. i guess it makes sense that there would have been. i think i read something about the greenpoint piers once.

i don't think we have an equivelent to this particular kind of change in a city. it's quite hard to get my head around 80s nyc because its been absolutely obliterated. those shots in downtown 81 of what i think is probably ave C / D, where it's a few houses and then rubble, are really hard to equate with the east village today, even that bit of it. even the names of the places are different (east village, nolita, i think tribeca is a neologism too isn't it? i'm still not sure if 'two bridges' is a term that's actually used outside of google maps).
 
IdleRich

IdleRich

IdleRich
TRiangle BEneath CAnal street right? One of the few things I remember from the first time i went to NY in about 2001.
 
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Leo

Leo

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east village has been around for a long time, but it used to be called Alphabet City, and then south of that the Lower East Side. Tribeca has also been around for a long time, not sure when it surfaced but surely the doing of real estate people who wanted to differentiate it from the Financial District. Nolita is an entirely "new" made up real estate name, as is NoHo, NoMad, Hudson Yards, Two Bridges.
 
dilbert1

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shakahislop said:
is that one of the piers on the west side? i can't work it out. it looks like the FDR behind them, but i don't think there were any piers on the east side so that's confusing. or maybe it's right down near battery park on the west side, i think there's an elevated expressway like that there
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I don’t know shit about nyc geography but I remember liking Walter Steding’s miserable bit in the film and looking him up afterward
 
william_kent

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shaka was ahead of the curve here

shakahislop said:
i tip for all the normal stuff, but not for coffee, which to me seems like one of those optional ones
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seems the USA may have almost reached peak tipping point

Is tipping getting out of control? Many consumers say yes​

Across the country, there’s a silent frustration brewing about an age-old practice that many say is getting out of hand: tipping.

Some fed-up consumers are posting rants on social media complaining about tip requests at drive-thrus, while others say they’re tired of being asked to leave a gratuity for a muffin or a simple cup of coffee at their neighborhood bakery.
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