Mr. Tea
Let's Talk About Ceps
Ha, OK, but I don't think it constitutes a defence of a healthcare system per se to say that you can get good treatment if you can afford it, as long as you explicitly acknowledge that rather important lemma.
Decline
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Murphy
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you should find this cunt and glass him mate, do the cunt out looking for mushrooms, “Oy Tea, feel my chainsaw” and brzzzzzzz quarter him up close and personal, brrzzzzzz rib tickler, brzzzzzz cleaved open screaming for his Mum but too late....fade to black
you save glassings for pigeons, this problem requires far more lethal force/pain
you should find this cunt and glass him mate, do the cunt out looking for mushrooms, “Oy Tea, feel my chainsaw” and brzzzzzzz quarter him up close and personal, brrzzzzzz rib tickler, brzzzzzz cleaved open screaming for his Mum but too late....fade to black
you save glassings for pigeons, this problem requires far more lethal force/pain
Mr. Tea
Let's Talk About Ceps
Christ, it's bad enough when luka gets like this...
vershy versh
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The Teaxas Chainsaw Massacre.
Murphy
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vershy versh
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Been seeing more and more lately about just how poor wages in Britain are relative to the US, Canada, Australia. Anecdotal stuff under FT and Economist articles with people talking about nurses being paid twice as much in Oz, tech salaries being two or three times higher in the US. Saw someone earlier saying their wife was devastated when she learned she could be earning 90k elsewhere for something she does for mid 30s in the UK.
Lost count how many threads and articles I've seen on this sort of thing now. Just this steady drip of reports on how fucked British wages are followed by comment sections echoing the sentiment and also noting a total unwillingness on the part of employers to even consider hiring anyone they might have to invest in and train.
shakahislop
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have noticed the same thing and have watched as the idea / assemblage / discourse / has gathered pace and began to sprout its own appendages. a great example of how things written online are creating subjectivities / worldviews. there's some kind of interaction between the reality of a slightly declining uk especially middle class uk, people who basically want everyone to think that the uk is fucked and deliberately encourage that with bots etc, standard english miserablism and the dark northern european winter, and a sort of way that there's a utility to the idea, if you fit it in with the everyday lives of chunk of people it fills some kind of emotional need. it's the current version of Editors and We'll Live And Die In These Towns i think but like everything it's been cleaved from tunes and it's just internet comments sections now
shakahislop
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plus the echoes of what was created when people started to think of themselves as remainers, that has not gone away, battle lines were formed by that period and if you're committed to it there's a certain i told you so satisfaction to believing that everything is getting worse economically . a kind of consolation prize for losers who aren't used to losing
shakahislop
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its people looking at screens reading comments and typing comments, even the FT man is doing that ultimately but in a more checked and guardrailed way, you have to think about the medium being the message or whatever, or at least factor in how the worldview you're talking about is first and foremost something created by the format of the FT comments section and reddit threads in the same way as you could at one point believe in the gangster rap worldview via CDs. it's scenius in the end. a kind of collective undertaking where people are having a language-based subjectivity created in their brains and at the same time are typing words into the computer and passing that subjectivity onto other people
shakahislop
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i don't know if you'd necessarily be able to notice any kind of uk decline without all the words you read on the internet. you couldn't be very sure of it anyway. people have thought the uk is shit for a long time like so many people have had the experience now of coming back from like spain and landing into grey cloud and everything suddenly being twice as expensive and so on and so on. broken britain was coined in idk 2007 or something. this current decline thing is the same sentiment with charts it's adapted to the format of the time
shakahislop
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uk and europeans i've noticed have stopped coming to nyc very much, you don't see like french people wandering around williamsburg taking pictures of corporate commissions graffiti anymore, i used to have a steady stream of friends in town and haven't had any for a year, every time someone came over in recent years they were shocked by the prices, middle class people used to being able to book hotels without much fuss and being confronted with $300 tiny just about ok rooms, there's been a lag but word has got out and people from that part of the world have realized that it's too expensive really unless you're rich, it's not like going to italy or something. one thing that does seem to be happening more than uk decline is america steaming ahead and it's hard to swallow coz the basic euro worldview is 'we are the best and america does everything wrong' which is basically in the long run the continuation of the contempt of richer europeans for the poor people of their country who went to america, the unsophisticated and uncouth new money who do everything wrong and don't deserve to have it the acceptable continuation of european chauvanism now that everyone knows you can't say that about india or morocco
shakahislop
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there's grains of truth in the decline thing, it's not nothing but the perception of it is interacting with other things
shakahislop
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this was called 'Decline' on the mp3 download when he first released it, i loved this EP, i walked around lost in boston spaced out listening on an mp3 player, no maps on a phone, singing to myself at night by the seaport, i'd been at occupy for a week or so sleeping under a tarp and getting wet absolutely knackered, then i went up to lowell to look at kerouac's town and met a guy in a diner who said he knew him
Been seeing more and more lately about just how poor wages in Britain are relative to the US, Canada, Australia. Anecdotal stuff under FT and Economist articles with people talking about nurses being paid twice as much in Oz, tech salaries being two or three times higher in the US. Saw someone earlier saying their wife was devastated when she learned she could be earning 90k elsewhere for something she does for mid 30s in the UK.
I know this is an old graph now but even so what this illustrates really is how skewed the rich/poor dynamic is across the country. Working down south the idea of that being an actual wage is completely absurd and though I've had a weird old career & probably maximised a few opportunities I know loads of people who are happy, comfortable, quite well off
But then there are whole swathes of the country absolutely fucking skint, no jobs, fuck all prospects, or even the "good" jobs being offered are fucking awful wage. Outside of seven or eight cities everyone is getting fucked. Not sure what the solution is really
That said I'm off to America next year and feel like my bank balance is about to get absolutely fucked beyond belief