Do we really want out?

[Murphy]

@version you’d have loved Exodus, it went wonky like so much of British life, but there was a genuine window there

Exodus: the latest - One Eye on the Road

further back and faster, met a few people whose upbringing was here (teepee)

Tipi Valley, Wales

There aren't many Tipis left in Tipi Valley. In the early days, when the council in this part of Wales was keen to evict the hippies that came to settle on a 200 acre site in a valley near the hamlet of Cywmdu, the Tipis were essential. Served with an eviction notice, the occupant would simply...

www.rjinman.uk

 

[Murphy]

Does being aware of The Spectacle actually make any difference to The Spectacle?

Yes. Observation affects experiment.

 

[thirdform]

Does being aware of The Spectacle actually make any difference to The Spectacle?

Doesn't matter. the spectacle is not something propped up by the wrong ideas in the heads of the ruling class. it arises from the social fabric and the clash of class forces as such. If it were that simple, a propaganda campaign would be sufficient.

 

[thirdform]

Yep and there is a direct link with acts like Ital Rockers which included Mark from Iration Steppas. Richard Kirk big on dub. Nightmares on Wax proper dubby.

It has to do with the windrush migration and later south asian migration to Yorkshire specifically. It's why bassline has a big asian contingent and was basically the garage music mutation up north.

Glasgow has had a lot of migration but that came a lot later relatively speaking so they never had pre-acid sound system culture, whereas Bradford, Leeds and Sheffield did. And by sound system I'm specifically talking about blues parties.

@WashYourHands Notingham kind of proves my point though, as far as I know, it mostly orbitted around house. House was universal enough for it to be picked up by the whole of the UK. Not that there wasn't jungle in Nots, I'm sure there was but when we talk about city wide trends of domination.

 

[thirdform]

the real sound of Glasgow - not the Sub Club or The Arches or whatever - is donk and bouncey house, that's what you hear blasting out of cars and in high street clubs at 3am

One for @Rudewhy

Mixcloud

www.mixcloud.com

One of my blind gay mates in Canada was a big fan of this stuff. Can enjoy it for 10 minutes as novelty cheese but a night of it would grate. Prefer the cheapo 90s happy hardcore sound.

 

[luka]

Obviously reading books is not going to help no matter where you buy them from. The only thing that counts is finding something worthwhile to do and doing it. Putting your energy into a thing which you value more than making money.
Eg. Into doing drugs.

 

[version]

@version you’d have loved Exodus, it went wonky like so much of British life, but there was a genuine window there

Exodus: the latest - One Eye on the Road

further back and faster, met a few people whose upbringing was here (teepee)

Tipi Valley, Wales

There aren't many Tipis left in Tipi Valley. In the early days, when the council in this part of Wales was keen to evict the hippies that came to settle on a 200 acre site in a valley near the hamlet of Cywmdu, the Tipis were essential. Served with an eviction notice, the occupant would simply...

www.rjinman.uk

I think this bloke my brother worked with grew up in Tipi Valley. He's spoken about living in some hippy commune in a valley in Wales when he was a kid.

 

[shiels]

Version the people that are answering your question in the most useful way are @constant escape and @xenogoth

 

[shiels]

Stan just asks more questions but important ones

 

[shiels]

We have to go back and study him mournfully

 

[Murphy]

I’ve lived on a bus. It’s shit. Sprinkle with heroin, even worse.

 

[shiels]

As luke said plugging stan and third together - unstoppable. Unity is going to be the key to our success

 

[version]

Version the people that are answering your question in the most useful way are @constant escape and @xenogoth

What have they been saying?

 

[shiels]

Unity forged from dissensus

 

[Mr. Tea]

I’ve lived on a bus. It’s shit. Sprinkle with heroin, even worse.

I'd have thought the heroin might make it more bearable? Depends whether you're the one taking it, I guess.

 

[shiels]

What have they been saying?

He didn’t realise it yet but as i said to Stan last week before he ejected , he’s a tantric Marxist

That was before reading this bit in @xenogoth mark fisher book where he talks about lyotards libidinal economy

Mark Fisher | From “Postcapitalist Desire: The Final Lectures” (Libidinal Marxism)

Lecture Five: Libidinal Marxism 5 December 2016 MARK FISHER: OK, what did you make of Lyotard? [Student], I know you’re introducing it, but what did other people make of the text? STU…

my-blackout.com

 

[shiels]

Keen to hear your thoughts on that but Version

 

[version]

I've got it open in another tab, but I'm currently reading a National Review piece on Jeane Kirkpatrick so @craner doesn't think I only read Wikipedia.

 

[hmg]

You must create, relentlessly, until the world submits. Anything else is being a pasteman.

 

[shiels]

Create relentlessly - yep absolutely

Until the world submits, else ur pasteman - PUA