Philosophers and Diagrams

[DLaurent]

I've always found these useful where attempts to read fail.



That one is Blade Runner-eqsue is it not? It's Lacan.



And I liked Heidegger for a while, got into him more through reading about Terrence Malick.

 

[luka]

im very anti diagram. militantly anti diagram anti graph.

 

[DLaurent]

I can fill in a lot of blanks from a diagram so probably misunderstand them but the Lacan diagram explains a lot of what is going on in the world. Hate is primordial and so easier to tap into.

 

[vershy versh]

I dunno whether or not he can be considered a philosopher, but here's one of Yeats'.

 

[vershy versh]

Jordan Peterson's got some strange diagrams.

 

[Murphy]

I dunno whether or not he can be considered a philosopher, but here's one of Yeats'.

You can almost see the unicursal hexagram in it

 

[Murphy]

Jordan Peterson's got some strange diagrams.

Patriarchal world of light - 100mgs of diazepam thorts

 

[luka]

I can fill in a lot of blanks from a diagram so probably misunderstand them but the Lacan diagram explains a lot of what is going on in the world. Hate is primordial and so easier to tap into.

im very anti diagram so unfortunately i cant look at it myself can you explain what is happening in it please

 

[Murphy]

@mixed_biscuits

 

[DLaurent]

im very anti diagram so unfortunately i cant look at it myself can you explain what is happening in it please

It's how Lacan divide the psyche.So a basic summary...

1) The real - a state of nature. Primordial. The closest you get to this is as a baby though he thought the 'Real' was impossible and always just an external force.
2) The imaginary - This comes from Lacan's Mirror Stage. Closest you will get to it is as a child. Because it's related to the mirror stage he thought it was always a Narcissistic element of the psyche.
3) The Symbolic - A more adult element. This comes from laws of communication and so it related more to Freud and parental relationships.

If you place Love and Hate in those. Hate is real. A state of nature. Love is all about communication.

 

[vershy versh]

This is a weird one,

“This is how the story of time ends: by undoing its too well centred natural or physical circle and forming a straight line which then, led by its own length, reconstitutes an eternally decentred circle.” —Deleuze, DR 115 (Illustration from Young, et al. D&G Dictionary)

 

[Murphy]

Tim Ingold’s Dwelling Perspective










think he’s taking the piss, personally

 

[luka]

The Bitch's Shadow

In a sprawling and exciting Bloomsday conversation I had with sync sorcerers, Douglas Bolles, William Klaus and Dennis Koch, recorded for...

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[vershy versh]

"... it is a diagram, that is to say a 'functioning, abstracted from any obstacle... or friction [and which] must be detached from any specific use'. The diagram is no longer an auditory or visual archive but a map, a cartography that is coextensive with the whole social field. It is an abstract machine. It is described by its informal functions and matter and in terms of form makes no distinction between content and expression, a discursive formation and a no-discursive formation. It is a machine that is almost blind and mute, even though it makes others see and speak."
-- Foucault, Deleuze (1986)

Deleuze: on the Diagram

 

[shiels]

I think and feel out new ideas in a very visual way, as moving 3d shapes along vectors etc, but attempts to explain those concepts to others using that visual doesnt really work. and i always find these diagrams just funny and crude

 

[vershy versh]

I think and feel out new ideas in a very visual way, as moving 3d shapes along vectors etc, but attempts to explain those concepts to others using that visual doesnt really work. and i always find these diagrams just funny and crude

It's like jotting down notes for yourself. They make total sense at the time, but you show them to anyone else it just looks like random words, numbers etc.

I used to write down the number of tracks I had in Winamp on a little scrap of paper after becoming convinced some of them were disappearing and, once I stopped doing it, it looked completely bizarre. Just a maze of numbers like 24764, 23578, 24401.

 

[Murphy]

They are MK Ultra codes

 

[luka]

It's like jotting down notes for yourself. They make total sense at the time, but you show them to anyone else it just looks like random words, numbers etc.

I used to write down the number of tracks I had in Winamp on a little scrap of paper after becoming convinced some of them were disappearing and, once I stopped doing it, it looked completely bizarre. Just a maze of numbers like 24764, 23578, 24401.

i found a note to myself the other day that read 'become turmeric'

 

[luka]

was going to make a thread of incomprehensible notes to self

 

[DLaurent]

My own diagram for Huizinga.

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